What to choose: physicist, engineer, or something else?

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The discussion revolves around the decision-making process regarding choosing a major between physics, engineering, or other fields. Participants explore the implications of these choices on future career paths, income potential, and personal interests, particularly in the context of a freshman's experience in materials engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a lack of passion for engineering and a growing interest in physics, questioning whether a bachelor's degree in physics would suffice for their intellectual curiosity.
  • Another participant suggests that physics can lead to various career paths, including engineering and theoretical research, but notes that engineering typically offers higher starting salaries.
  • Concerns are raised about job security and the necessity of actively marketing oneself to potential employers, regardless of the degree chosen.
  • Some participants highlight the importance of being well-rounded and acquiring skills beyond just physics or engineering, such as programming and critical thinking.
  • There is a discussion about the variability in income potential for physics graduates, with some fields offering better financial prospects than others.
  • One participant emphasizes that the choice of degree should align with personal interests and that the journey to discover what one truly wants is significant.

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Participants express differing views on the value of engineering versus physics degrees, the implications for job security, and the importance of personal passion in choosing a major. There is no consensus on which path is definitively better, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best choice for the original poster.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the uncertainty surrounding job prospects and income potential in both fields, as well as the subjective nature of what constitutes a fulfilling career. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions about the job market and the value of different degrees.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students considering a major in physics or engineering, those uncertain about their career paths, and individuals seeking insights into the job market for STEM graduates.

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What to choose: physicist, engineer, or something else??

To those who read this post, thank you first for reading this

I really need help as soon as possible. Currently I'm a freshman majoring in materials engineering. I chose that major because I thought it's a combination of chemistry and physics. I chose my major randomly when I applied to universities.
I already didn't feel much passion for engineering and designing stuff ever since in high school. We did some windmill engineering design competition (high school level). All I did was mostly technical paper, drawing in computer, and some little addition to the windmill itself. It was great and I like it, but I didn't love it. I also took a seminar class about materials engineering as a whole, and still I wasn't moved.
I've been really interested in physics and thinking to major in it. I'm currently reading books about modern physics and other physics-related articles in internet, and I like it when I read them. (cant wait to take the quantum mechanics and other modern physics classes :P) My problem is that I'm really really afraid about my income in the future.
I know I'm not supposed to consider the salary factor that much, but I have no idea at all about the field. I searched online and there are so many different opinions about it. I mean, I don't hate engineering, it's physical science, it's just I like physics way better.
Or maybe I'm just curious about how things work in quantum level.

Is bachelor degree enough to fulfill my thirst for physics? I don't mind at all getting a graduate degree. which career should I choose? Why? What's the source of your opinion? Is there any other jobs that let me learn about physics and give secure income at the same time? I'm not greedy for being filthy rich; nice house and nice car are enough for me. Like middle class. You know what I mean?

So, thank you very much and sorry for the long post. Your opinion will be very appreciated.
 
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well why would you chose a major you didn't care for in the first place? and if you're a freshman you can still switch to actual physics. do what you love. and as far as jobs go, physics kind of splits into engineering (which is actually very broad and doesn't have to be as boring as you'd think. their's obviously material/mechanical as you know now but also chemical, computer, nuclear, petroleum along with different energy research, biomedical, aeronautical, hydro, etc). and the other major path is research in more theoretical fields which does require graduate work (usually a PhD) but sounds more up your alley from what you posted. as far as income is concerned obviously engineers tend to make more as they actually provide some sort of tangible product of sorts whereas researchers are mainly just on paper, but certain research fields do provide different opportunities including astrophysics which who knows, could land you a job with NASA which would pay well. Most standard researchers though make 40-50000 starting salary but it's hard work and for you may not be worth the small paycheck. writing books and stuff will earn you extra though. hope that helped a bit but I just scratched the surface, there are opportunities out there, you just got to look
 


claytonh4 said:
well why would you chose a major you didn't care for in the first place?

uhm because i thought engineers make good money? yea i know.. i kind of regretted it now. i'll start focusing on one thing at a time. thank you very much though. i'll look around :)
 


A job is never a guarantee no matter the degree. You will have to go out and sell yourself to employers. Sometimes that means long-term and sometimes you'll consistantly be on the hunt again every few years. It all depends on YOU. You find your job. You make what you can out of what you know.

If you're considering physics there are many useful guides around these forums such as this:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=547392

There was also one that got pretty popular titled 'So you want to be a physicist' but the links I'm finding are dead. I recommend looking for this one because it was a game-changer for me as I am currently a physics undergrad.

The most important thing I've learned from those two posts is that physics graduates rarely do pure phsyics. They apply models, physics/math, and critical thinking to problems that need solving. The key here is being well rounded. Don't just learn physics or engineering. Go beyond that and dabble in everything related. Computer programming and electronics often come up in related and useful abilities.

The modern physics books I've read helped me get excited about end-game physics, too, but keep in mind that you basically have to be a rock star in the physics world to make a good living doing theoretical physics. Anyone can learn math/physics and try to figure out new theories but to make a living at it you basically have to have proven yourself already. However, that's only a tiny part of what being a physicist can mean. Like I said, if you end up studying physics you can apply that to a very large array of jobs if you're willing to diversify. Economics, computing, data storage/analysis, engineering, ... the list goes on and on.

Whether a BA is enough to satisfy your thirst for physics depends entirely on your thirst for physics. The same goes for what degree to go for. No one can tell you what degree to go for because it depends entirely on what you want and finding out what you want is a journey in itself. I'll say this, though... if there is a degree for it then a good number of people already think it's worth studying. Every degree out there will have a community of people saying it's worth having. If you come to a physics forum then you'll likely find people telling you that physics is useful, and, well, it is!

Engineering and physics degrees are both worth having and both can help you find good jobs but it's all about what you can do with them and how you market yourself when it comes to the money. How easy that is for you to do, though, depends on what you -want- to do.

Speak up if you have any more questions and good luck!
 

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