What type of functions are these?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around understanding electrical calculations in alternating current (AC) circuits, specifically focusing on the functions involved, such as sine and cosine functions, and the role of complex numbers in circuit analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the specific aspects of electrical calculations that are unclear, suggesting a need for clarification.
  • There is mention of Ohm's Law and complex impedances, indicating their relevance to the discussion.
  • Participants identify sine and cosine functions as central to the topic and discuss their prior exposure to these functions.
  • Some participants suggest reviewing trigonometry to better understand sinusoidal functions.
  • Complex numbers are proposed as a tool that simplifies mathematical calculations in AC circuit analysis.
  • One participant outlines a study method that includes basic functions, trigonometric functions, complex numbers, and AC circuit analysis.
  • Recommendations for resources, including videos and articles, are shared to aid in understanding complex numbers and their application in AC circuits.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of sine and cosine functions and complex numbers in AC circuit analysis, but there is no consensus on the best approach to studying these concepts or the specific resources to use.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about their familiarity with trigonometric functions and complex numbers, indicating varying levels of prior knowledge and experience.

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Homework Statement: Trying to understand electrical calculations in AC
Relevant Equations: I = V/R

Here it is :

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Please be more specific about what you cannot understand so that we can explain it.
 
kuruman said:
Please be more specific about what you cannot understand so that we can explain it.
I want to know what is the composition of these functions , so that I can study them one by one , and do some exercises .
 
Are you familiar with Ohm's Law? Are you familiar with complex impedances?
 
badr said:
I want to know what is the composition of these functions , so that I can study them one by one , and do some exercises .
"These functions" are sines and cosines. Have you studied them?
 
kuruman said:
"These functions" are sines and cosines. Have you studied them?
I have not yet studied them , they were part of my apprenticeship years ago but just few examples nothing deep .

I was taking courses in electronics.

I am trying to do a revision while i still have free time.
 
You might wish to start with the overview shown in this video and follow up with more in the series. The guy in this video seems to talk a lot but he might be what you need because he explains things slowly.

 
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badr said:
Are complex numbers involved by any chance ?
Involving them makes the math 'easier'

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BvU said:
Involving them makes the math 'easier'

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Ok is this a good study method ? :

I am more interested in the mathematical side of things by the way and its importance in circuit analysis.

1 ) basic functions

2 ) Trigonometric functions

3 ) complex numbers

4 ) Ac circuit analysis
 
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Re Complex numbers
BvU said:
Involving them makes the math 'easier'
because a complex number carries a magnitude and a phase

I can recommend the treatment by @LCkurtz on his website
LCKurtz said:
Introducing complex numbers
Confused about complex numbers or how to teach the topic? Click on Complex Numbers to read about a natural approach to complex numbers. If you want to print that article, click on pdf version for a pdf document to print.
Impedance in AC circuits
Using same ideas and notation as in the complex numbers article above, the article Alternating Current Impedance gives a tutorial about why impedance can be modeled with complex numbers. You will need to have some familiarity with Calculus to get the full benefit from that article.

In addition:
I still like the youtube physics videos by Eugene Khutoryansky very much: he uses time (motion) and the 3d training of our brain to the max to make us 'see' more dimensions. And he does have a 14 minute one on complex numbers (and nicely following the 'plane numbers' path @LCKurtz describes :wink: )

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Thanks everybody, I am getting the picture clear now.

Time to dive in.
 
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