What was the original purpose of the chainsaw?

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The discussion centers around the original purpose of the chainsaw, exploring its historical context as a medical device from the late 18th century before becoming a tool for lumberjacks. Participants reflect on the evolution of chainsaw technology and its implications for both medical and lumber industries.

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  • Some participants note that the chainsaw was originally a medical device used for cutting bone, which contrasts with the common perception of it as a lumberjack's tool.
  • Others discuss the evolution of chainsaw technology, highlighting that handheld powered chainsaws are a recent development, with earlier models being too heavy for practical use.
  • One participant mentions the challenges faced by lumberjacks who relied on traditional two-man saws due to the weight and noise of early chainsaws.
  • There are reflections on the state of anesthesia in the 18th century, with some participants expressing skepticism about its effectiveness during medical procedures involving chainsaws.
  • Several posts reference the addictive nature of early anesthetics, linking it to historical figures and personal anecdotes related to the use of ether in medical settings.
  • One participant humorously suggests that the chainsaw's medical origins could be seen as a contributing factor to deforestation, raising questions about the broader implications of technological advancements.
  • Another participant counters that many inventions, including the wheel, could similarly be implicated in negative consequences, suggesting a broader philosophical debate about technology's impact.

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Participants express a range of views regarding the historical context and implications of the chainsaw's development. There is no consensus on the significance of its medical origins versus its role in forestry, and the discussion remains open-ended with multiple competing perspectives.

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Some claims about the chainsaw's history and its implications for both medicine and forestry are based on anecdotal evidence and personal reflections, which may not be universally accepted or verified.

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If given the question, I would not have fathomed that the chainsaw device with a continuous 'blade' was originally a medical device from the late 18th century.
An effort saving machine for lumberjacks cutting wood would have been my first guess. But wrong.

But when one thinks about it, the hand held powered chainsaw the average homeowner can buy is a recent ( 50 years or so ) machine. For quite some time engines were heavy. So heavy that a handheld was out of the question until technology improved to give weight savings such as aluminium blocks.
Lumberjacks would necessarily have stuck with the trusty two man straight blade to cut down a tree, as that could be carried around and manueuvred much more easily than a cumbersome heavy machine that hurt your ears when running. Effort saving was not to be had until after the middle of last century.

read on.....
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/foodanddr...pc=U531&cvid=36d61fcabddc4954843451cbe583f957

https://chainsawlarry.com/when-were-chainsaws-invented/

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Early chain saw muscle powered for cutting bone in medical operations.
 
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256bits said:
If given the question, I would not have fathomed that the chainsaw device with a continuous 'blade' was originally a medical device from the late 18th century.
An effort saving machine for lumberjacks cutting wood would have been my first guess. But wrong.

But when one thinks about it, the hand held powered chainsaw the average homeowner can buy is a recent ( 50 years or so ) machine. For quite some time engines were heavy. So heavy that a handheld was out of the question until technology improved to give weight savings such as aluminium blocks.
Lumberjacks would necessarily have stuck with the trusty two man straight blade to cut down a tree, as that could be carried around and manueuvred much more easily than a cumbersome heavy machine that hurt your ears when running. Effort saving was not to be had until after the middle of last century.

read on.....
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/foodanddr...pc=U531&cvid=36d61fcabddc4954843451cbe583f957

https://chainsawlarry.com/when-were-chainsaws-invented/

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Early chain saw muscle powered for cutting bone in medical operations.
Yikes, I do not think anaesthesia was particularly well developed in the 18th century.
Whiskey perhaps?
 
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pinball1970 said:
Yikes, I do not think anaesthesia was particularly well developed in the 18th century.
Whiskey perhaps?
Many early researchers of anaesthesia became addicts.

A nice read about a couple of them
An Anatomy of Addiction: Sigmund Freud, William Halsted, and the Miracle Drug Cocaine
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1400078792/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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Frabjous said:
Many early researchers of anaesthesia became addicts.

A nice read about a couple of them
An Anatomy of Addiction: Sigmund Freud, William Halsted, and the Miracle Drug Cocaine
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1400078792/?tag=pfamazon01-20
One of my lecturers at Uni was an ether addict. He was probably the age I am now or younger, it was 1987, Pretty matter of fact about it, first lecture come to think of it.
Some practicals involved ether. Lots of Drosophila studies where they were euthanized at the end. I supposed he just gained his addiction via diffusion?
Anyway that contraption in the OP is terrifying and anaesthesia is just one of those things we take for granted now.
As a small aside I was struck by an episode of house where he performs an amputation with what looks like a small wood saw. <snip -- Google link to page of ads now removed>
EDIT: Completely wrong after checking! How does one remember things in such a distorted way? Anyway, This is TV not real life but I think House team tried to be realistic @berkeman
6.30 in the video. If you have never watched House then I recommend it.
 
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There was a scene in the movie THe Cider House Rules where the doctor played by Michael Caine would take ether naps until it killed him later in the movie.
 
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256bits said:
If given the question, I would not have fathomed that the chainsaw device with a continuous 'blade' was originally a medical device from the late 18th century.
An effort saving machine for lumberjacks cutting wood would have been my first guess. But wrong.

But when one thinks about it, the hand held powered chainsaw the average homeowner can buy is a recent ( 50 years or so ) machine. Here For quite some time engines were heavy. So heavy that a handheld was out of the question until technology improved to give weight savings such as aluminium blocks.
Lumberjacks would necessarily have stuck with the trusty two man straight blade to cut down a tree, as that could be carried around and manueuvred much more easily than a cumbersome heavy machine that hurt your ears when running. Effort saving was not to be had until after the middle of last century.

read on.....
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/foodanddr...pc=U531&cvid=36d61fcabddc4954843451cbe583f957

https://chainsawlarry.com/when-were-chainsaws-invented/

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Early chain saw muscle powered for cutting bone in medical operations.
Interesting and curious to know! How a medical device saw changed the landscape of the planet))) Deforestation means medicine is to blame for everything))))
 
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Yeah, except one could say that about every invention most notably the wheel.
 
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