What was the velocity of the Honda

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a chain reaction car accident, specifically focusing on the velocities of vehicles involved in elastic and inelastic collisions. The subject area includes concepts of momentum conservation and collision types.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of conservation laws for both elastic and inelastic collisions. There are attempts to derive the velocity of the Honda after the first collision, with some questioning the validity of the equations used. Others express uncertainty about which collision to analyze first and what principles apply.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the principles of collisions, but there is no explicit consensus on the method to use or the correct velocity of the Honda.

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Participants note the need for clarity on the equations applicable to different types of collisions and the importance of correctly identifying the sequence of events in the problem. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding units in the equations presented.

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In a chain reaction car accident on the North-South tollway, a BMW with a mass of 2000 kg collides elastically with a Honda Civic (mass 1500 kg) at rest. The Honda in turn collides with a Hummer of mass 3000 kg in front of it, that’s also at rest, and the Honda and the Hummer lock bumpers and slide forward with a velocity of 3 m/s. (The BMW that originated the chain of events is not involved in the second collision). What was the velocity of the Honda right after the first collision and before it hits the Hummer?

My attempt: V=MA/MA+MB

(2000kg)(0m/s)+(1500)(3m/s)+(3000kg)(3m/s) / 1500kg+3000kg
Is this correct??
 
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My attempt: V=MA/MA+MB
Can't have this - units of m/s on the left, kg on the last term on the right.
So, there is an elastic collision and then an inelastic collision, ending up with speed 3. Which collision will you start with? What equation(s) apply to each collision?
 


Delphi51 said:
Can't have this - units of m/s on the left, kg on the last term on the right.
So, there is an elastic collision and then an inelastic collision, ending up with speed 3. Which collision will you start with? What equation(s) apply to each collision?

You would start with the elastic collision? I don't understand which equation to use
 


I am reluctant to say which end I would start at! Far better for you to see which way to go. I think you will when you write out the equations.

Do you know what principle applies to all collisions?
And which one applies only to elastic collisions?
These should be easy to find in your textbook or in
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/conser.html#cons
Once you know the conservation law(s) that apply, you will be able to write equations for them. I suggest a diagram with appropriate names for things like the speed and mass of the Honda, etc.
 


Delphi51 said:
I am reluctant to say which end I would start at! Far better for you to see which way to go. I think you will when you write out the equations.

Do you know what principle applies to all collisions?
And which one applies only to elastic collisions?
These should be easy to find in your textbook or in
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/conser.html#cons
Once you know the conservation law(s) that apply, you will be able to write equations for them. I suggest a diagram with appropriate names for things like the speed and mass of the Honda, etc.

Is it 9.09?
 


I got a number close to that, but not the same.
Did you start with the last collision? Equation?
 

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