What would a 500-year-old abandoned city on the coast look like?

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The discussion revolves around the hypothetical appearance and ecological state of a 500-year-old abandoned coastal city, set within a cavern. Participants explore various scientific aspects, including plant growth, decay of materials, and the condition of human remains in such an environment.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks scientific insights on the ecological changes in a long-abandoned city, noting the expected growth of moss and algae due to its coastal location.
  • Another participant suggests that the growth of moss could be influenced by the presence of slow-growing species, which could affect visibility and the narrative reveal in the novel.
  • There is a discussion about the decay of materials, with some participants agreeing that wood would decay and stone structures would remain, depending on the climate conditions.
  • One participant emphasizes that the climate must be humid for significant moss and algae growth, while others note that many coastal areas can have desert or Mediterranean climates.
  • Questions arise about the potential for trees to grow through buildings if parts of the city are exposed to sunlight, with some participants affirming that this is possible.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the state of human remains, with a suggestion that in a humid climate, remains might mostly turn to dust rather than skeletons being preserved.
  • References to real-world examples of ancient civilizations and cave ecosystems are provided as potential sources of inspiration for the novel's setting.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the specifics of plant growth and decay processes, indicating that multiple competing perspectives exist regarding the ecological outcomes in the described environment. The discussion remains unresolved on several points, particularly concerning the influence of climate on these factors.

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Limitations include assumptions about climate conditions, the specific types of flora that might thrive, and the extent of decay processes over 500 years. The discussion does not resolve these uncertainties.

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i'm doing research for a novel i am writing and would like some accurate scientific answers.

in the novel i have most of the setting places in a long abandoned city set on the coast of the ocean. the city sits within the mouth of a huge cavern opening, with some of the city deep within the cave. the time is set for over 500 years after the city had been abandoned and this is the first time humans have set foot in it since that time.
i'd like to know what the city would look like from scientific facts. for example: i understand moss and algae would grow all over the place due to the city's location near the ocean. i also understand wood would be decayed and anything other than stone would be virtually gone. however, i do not how much moss and algae would grow, or if other plants(since a forest is nearby) would grow as well. with a few parts exposed to sunlight, would trees grow through buildings or structures? also, what would the human remains look like. would there be skeletons left since the area is so exposed to the elements, or would it mostly be dust? also, is there anything i don't know about and haven't mentioned that might happen in these circumstances?

any information is much appreciated.
 
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If you declare that a slow growing species of moss had taken hold and blocked the other types from growing you can control how much the visitors can see of it. Give other species some toeholds and you can disguise features until The Big Reveal.

Remember, it doesn't have to be rational, just reasonable.
 
Liam A said:
in the novel i have most of the setting places in a long abandoned city set on the coast of the ocean. the city sits within the mouth of a huge cavern opening, with some of the city deep within the cave. the time is set for over 500 years after the city had been abandoned and this is the first time humans have set foot in it since that time.
i'd like to know what the city would look like from scientific facts. for example: i understand moss and algae would grow all over the place due to the city's location near the ocean.
Only if the climate is actually humid. Plenty of ocean coasts have climate which is desert or Mediterranean.
Liam A said:
i also understand wood would be decayed and anything other than stone would be virtually gone.
In humid climate, yes.
Liam A said:
however, i do not how much moss and algae would grow, or if other plants(since a forest is nearby) would grow as well. with a few parts exposed to sunlight, would trees grow through buildings or structures?
Oh yes.
Liam A said:
also, what would the human remains look like. would there be skeletons left since the area is so exposed to the elements, or would it mostly be dust?
In humid climate, I think mostly dust.
 
Sounds a lot like some of the lost jungle civilizations of the Americas. The Mayans and the Aztec both lived in the type of climate you described and both were destroyed about 500 years ago. There are many cities like what you described.
 

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