What's the Average Temperature on Mt. Palomar?

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The average temperature on Mt. Palomar can be determined using psychrometric charts, which are essential for understanding air density and water vapor pressure at various altitudes. ASHRAE publishes charts that can be ordered for specific elevations, which are useful for projects like telescope installations. Manual calculations and software packages are available for psychrometric calculations, accommodating altitude variations effectively. Utilizing these resources ensures accurate temperature assessments for high-altitude projects.

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  • Understanding of psychrometric charts
  • Familiarity with ASHRAE standards
  • Knowledge of thermodynamics principles
  • Experience with HVAC design calculations
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  • Research ASHRAE psychrometric charts for various elevations
  • Learn how to perform manual psychrometric calculations
  • Explore psychrometric calculation software options
  • Study the impact of altitude on air density and vapor pressure
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Engineers, HVAC professionals, and project managers involved in high-altitude construction or telescope projects will benefit from this discussion.

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Sorry, no thermo reference handy to try and figure it out myself. It would be nice to know, in case our company does any work up on the mountain (on a new telescope project coming up).
 
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Well, the psychrometric chart is generated from experimental data, but I'm sure you could determine gas-vapor properties for air at a different pressure using the fundamentals and your thermodynamics text. However I believe ASHRAE publishes charts for a variety of elevations and you can order one through them. My HVAC design prof mentioned having to get one for his work in our state of Colorado. Hope that helps some.
 


bigislander72 said:
Sorry, no thermo reference handy to try and figure it out myself. It would be nice to know, in case our company does any work up on the mountain (on a new telescope project coming up).

Air density and water vapor pressure play a primary role in the layout of the psychrometric chart, so when going up in altitude they must be accounted for. There are manual calculations available that enable you to calculate the values, or you can just look up a psychrometric chart at or near the altitude you're looking for.

For example, my work is at 7000ft above sea level. As such, I have used a psychrometric chart for that altitude in the past. Similar to this one: http://www.luhow.com/client/coolerado.com/CoolTools/Psychrmtrcs/7500PsychrmtrcLetter.pdf"

There are also several calculation software packages available that have psychrometric calulcation abilities, and I assume they can compensate for altitude changes.
 
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