Whats the formula for variance between batches?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of "between batch variation" (SBB2) in the context of a lab assignment for a Civil Engineering Materials class, specifically focusing on Portland cement concrete. Participants explore the formula or method to calculate this variation, with references to compressive strength and potential resources.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding information on the formula for between batch variation for Portland cement concrete.
  • Another participant provides a link to a digital book that discusses batch variations, suggesting that the variation may relate to the difference in compressive strength between batches.
  • This second participant proposes that the calculation could be as simple as taking the absolute value of the difference between the compressive strengths of two batches.
  • A third participant comments on the expectation of receiving help quickly, implying that the forum may not be the best place for immediate assistance.
  • The original poster later mentions receiving help from another graduate student before returning to the forum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion does not reach a consensus on the formula for between batch variation, and multiple viewpoints regarding the approach to the problem are presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference a specific table in a digital book and discuss the relationship between compressive strength and batch variation, but there is no clear agreement on the formula or method to be used.

Who May Find This Useful

Students in civil engineering or related fields, particularly those working on laboratory assignments involving concrete materials and batch variations.

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Im working on a lab for my Civil Engineering Materials class and its asking for the "between batch variation" (SBB^2) for different cylinders of Portland cement concrete. Its not written anywhere on the lab sheet. And I've looked in my book, notes, and Google. I am getting nothing here :/
 
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any1?
 
keep in mind I am not studying to be a civil but mech engineer so this is the best i can come up with.

heres a link to a digital book that discusses batch variations:
http://books.google.com/books?id=g8...age&q=cement between batch variation&f=false"

if you look at table 1.7 and read the page above it it seems as if S=compressive strength in MPa. so you are looking at the difference between compressive strength of both batches.
absolute value of S(batch A)-S(batch B).
maybe your making it harder than it seems when it might just be a trivial subtraction operation. and maybe that is why you can't find a formula to it because its that simple.
anyways keep in mind this is not my specialty and i know absolutely nothing about civil but this is what i understood purely from the text.
 
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If you really expect help within 35 minutes of posting your question, you're in the wrong place.
 
hhn, thanks for the help. i ended up getting help from another grad student before i could even get back to my computer though. thanks for your time though.
 
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