When do you not simplify in math?

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The discussion revolves around the question of when it may be appropriate not to simplify mathematical expressions. Participants explore various scenarios in algebra and other areas of mathematics where simplification might be beneficial or detrimental, considering both practical and theoretical implications.

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  • Some participants suggest that not simplifying can prevent careless mistakes and maintain the integrity of a solution.
  • Others argue that simplifying can make expressions easier to understand and more efficient for future use.
  • A participant notes that certain forms, like standard form for quadratic equations, may appear less simplified but serve specific purposes, such as graphing.
  • It is mentioned that personal preference plays a significant role in the decision to simplify or not, depending on the context of the problem.

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Participants express differing views on the necessity and utility of simplification, indicating that there is no consensus on a definitive approach to the question.

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Limitations include varying definitions of "simplified," the subjective nature of preferences in mathematical practice, and the context-dependent nature of simplification's utility.

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I have been studying algebra, and a good portion seems to be, getting really long equations to simple ones. My question is is there ever a time in any math where you wouldn't want to simplify? Assuming it isn't just the teacher not caring if you do.
 
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Tyrion101 said:
I have been studying algebra, and a good portion seems to be, getting really long equations to simple ones. My question is is there ever a time in any math where you wouldn't want to simplify? Assuming it isn't just the teacher not caring if you do.

Hi Tyrion101! :smile:

Ultimately you will need to consider whether it is worth to simplify something or not.

When solving a mathematical problem, it's often wise not to simplify the answer.
Simplifying may rob you of a correct answer due to a careless mistake.
On the other hand, if your problem is not solved yet, it may be wise to simplify, so you don't drag a long complicated expression along, increasing the chance on mistakes.

A teacher may want you to simplify, just so you learn how to do it.
But ultimately it's not simplifying that's important, but solving a problem and getting the correct answer, so that for instance a bridge does not fall apart.
In other words, simplifying is a means, but not an end.
 
Tyrion101 said:
I have been studying algebra, and a good portion seems to be, getting really long equations to simple ones. My question is is there ever a time in any math where you wouldn't want to simplify? Assuming it isn't just the teacher not caring if you do.

A simplified formula or expression is often easier to understand, and may be more compact making its use more efficient.

As a basic example, a problem situation you might study could lead to a fairly simple quadratic equation. The equation itself may well be very simple, taking the typical general form. Depending on what you want from this equation, you might wish to put it into standard form, maybe in order to more easily 'sketch' a graph. Converting into the standard form would require a few algebraic steps which themselves are making the equation LESS SIMPLIFIED. The standard form, although seeming to be less simplified, is still useful because of how you can use its features to make a graph manually.
 
To answer briefly (and a little simplified) you would want to simplify a formula if you expect you or someone else may want to use that formula again later. Obviously if you are going to be using a formula for 100 different values, it could save a lot of time by simplifying and removing any redundancies. If you do not expect you will have to use the given formula again or you think the process of simplifying the formula would be more work than it would save, then you might choose to stick with the more complicated formula. Ultimately, it comes down to personal preference most of the time.
 

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