When does a complex function have a simple zero on a given interval?

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The discussion centers on the conditions under which the polynomial $p(z)=z^3+3a^2z-1$ has a simple zero in the interval $(0,1)$ and the nature of meromorphic functions with poles at infinity. Participants explore methods for proving the existence and uniqueness of roots for the polynomial and the implications for the meromorphic function.

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  • Some participants propose using Rouché's Theorem to analyze the polynomial $p(z)$, suggesting that it can demonstrate the absence of zeros in certain regions.
  • Others argue that the Intermediate Value Theorem is sufficient to show that $p(z)$ has a root in $(0,1)$, based on the values of $p(0)$ and $p(1)$.
  • It is noted that $p'(z) = 3z^2 + 3a^2 > 0$ for all real $z$, implying that there cannot be more than one real zero of the polynomial.
  • Some participants question the applicability of certain theorems to complex functions and express uncertainty about the conditions under which these results hold.
  • Discussion on the meromorphic function $f$ includes the assertion that if $f$ has a pole at infinity, then it can be expressed as a polynomial when combined with a suitable polynomial $p(z)$. However, there is uncertainty about how to prove that the resulting function $g(z)$ is a polynomial.

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Participants generally agree on the existence of a simple zero for the polynomial in the interval $(0,1)$, but there are differing opinions on the methods used to establish this. The discussion regarding the meromorphic function remains unresolved, with multiple competing views on how to demonstrate that $g(z)$ is a polynomial.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the behavior of the functions involved, particularly concerning the application of theorems to complex functions and the conditions under which poles are considered.

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1) Let $a>0.$ Prove that $p(z)=z^3+3a^2z-1$ has a simple zero on $(0,1)$ and it doesn't have more real roots.

2) Consider a meromorphic function $f:\mathbb C\to\mathbb C$ so that $|f(z)|\xrightarrow[|z|\to\infty]{}\infty.$ Prove that $f$ is a rational function.

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1) I'd need to use Rouché's Theorem here, so I think I need to split it in two cases, when $|z|=0$ and $|z|=1.$ For first case let $|p(z)-1|=|z^3+3a^2z|\le|z^3|+3a^2|z|=0\le1\le|p(z)|+1,$ since $p(z)$ and $1$ don't have zeroes for $|z|=0,$ then by Rouché's Theorem $p(z)$ has no zeros for $|z|>0.$ For $|z|=1$ let $|p(z)-3a^2z|=|z^3-1|\le 1<3a^2=3a^2|z|,$ here's my problem, I think it should be $a>1$ so $|p(z)-3a^2z|\le 3a^2|z|\le |p(z)|+3a^2|z|,$ since $p(z)$ and $3a^2z$ don't have zeroes for $|z|=1$ by Rouché's Theorem $p(z)$ has a single zero on $|z|<1.$ In conclusion $p(z)$ has only a root for $0<|z|<1$ and the zero is simple because $p'(z)=3z^2+3a^2\ne0.$

2) I think I can write $g(z)=p(z)f(z)$ where $p(z)$ is a monic polynomial whose roots are the poles of $f,$ then $g(z)$ is a entire function and has convergent Taylor series, so $g(z)=\displaystyle\sum_{j=0}^\infty\frac{g^{(j)}(0)}{j!}z^j,$ so the only thing I need to prove is that $g$ is a polynomial, but I don't see how to use the info. of the limit.
 
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Markov said:
1) Let $a>0.$ Prove that $p(z)=z^3+3a^2z-1$ has a simple zero on $(0,1)$ and it doesn't have more real roots.
You don't need anything as advanced as Rouché for this.

1. $p(0) = -1 <0$, $p(1) = 3a^2>0$: Intermediate value theorem (there is a root in $(0,1)$).

2. $p'(z) = 3z^2+3a^2>0$ for all real $z$: Rolle's theorem (there cannot be more than one real zero, or a repeated zero).
 
Oh, do those work for complex anyway? I didn't know it. So it was quite simple, thanks.

Could you help me with second problem please?
 
Can anybody check my work for 2)? Am I on the right track?
 
Markov said:
Can anybody check my work for 2)? Am I on the right track?
I mean, are you aware of the statement that an entire function with a pole at infinity is a polynomial?
 
Yes, I know that fact, you mean the solution is short?
 
Markov said:
Yes, I know that fact, you mean the solution is short?

You tell me, is it obvious that $fp$ has a pole at infinity?
 
$f_p$ ?
 
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Markov said:
$f_p$ ?

What? No. Your $g$.
 
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$z=\infty$ is a pole of $f,$ which means that $z=0$ is a pole of $g(z)=f\left(\dfrac1z\right).$ Since the poles are isolated, exists $R>0$ so that $|z|<R,$ then $g(z)$ has no poles (except at $z=0).$ Making $z\mapsto\dfrac1z$ we have $|z|>\dfrac1R,$ then $f$ has no poles. On the other hand on $|z|\le\dfrac1R$ we have infinite poles since is compact, and if they were infinite, then we'll have an accumulation point, contradicting the fact that they are isolated. This shows that $f$ has finite poles, so we can write $g(z)=p(z)f(z),$ so I need to prove that $g$ is a polynomial.

If you see my work on post #1, then I have $g(z)=\displaystyle\sum_{j=0}^\infty\frac{g^{(j)}(0)}{j!}z^j,$ so if I can prove that $g$ is a polynomial I'm done. I was trying to use Cauchy's integral formula but I don't have a bound for $f,$ how would you prove that $g$ is a polynomial?
 
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Opalg said:
You don't need anything as advanced as Rouché for this.

1. $p(0) = -1 <0$, $p(1) = 3a^2>0$: Intermediate value theorem (there is a root in $(0,1)$).

2. $p'(z) = 3z^2+3a^2>0$ for all real $z$: Rolle's theorem (there cannot be more than one real zero, or a repeated zero).

It happens that Descartes rule of signs shows that there is exactly one positive real root (so the one in (0,1) is the only positive root) and no negative real roots.

The positive root could in principle have multiplicity 1 or 3, but as there is no \(z^2\) term the cubic cannot be a cube of a linear term, so the root in (0,1) is of multiplicity 1.

CB
 
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