When does equality hold? schwarz inequality

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality to prove the relationship \((a_1 + ... + a_n)^2 \leq n(a_1^2 + ... + a_n^2)\). Participants are exploring the conditions under which equality holds and the implications of choosing specific vectors.

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the inequality by substituting values and questioning the meaning of the constant \(n\) in the expression. Some are considering the implications of setting all \(a_i\) equal and discussing the choice of vectors in the context of the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their attempts and seeking clarification on specific aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the choice of vectors, and there is an acknowledgment of the need for further exploration of the inequality.

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Participants express a desire for resources to deepen their understanding of inequalities, indicating a mix of introductory and advanced interests. There is also a mention of the equality condition and the need for intuition regarding the inequality's geometric interpretation.

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Homework Statement


By choosing the correct vector b in the Schwarz inequality, prove that (a1 + ... + an)^2 =< n(a1^2 + ... +an^2)

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Schwarz inequality

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since the answer key says that a1 = a2 = ... = an, i tried plugging in values, but i am not getting anywhere and i completely have no intuition of what is happening here. and while on the topic, can anyone recommend books to read - both introductory and more advanced ones about inequalities? i would like a book that gives visual and geometric intuitions. books with proofs would be nice, but it's not a priority to me just yet. thank you!
 

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Terrell said:

Homework Statement


By choosing the correct vector b in the Schwarz inequality, prove that (a1 + ... + an)^2 =< n(a1^2 + ... +an^2)

Homework Equations


Schwarz inequality

The Attempt at a Solution


since the answer key says that a1 = a2 = ... = an, i tried plugging in values, but i am not getting anywhere and i completely have no intuition of what is happening here. and while on the topic, can anyone recommend books to read - both introductory and more advanced ones about inequalities? i would like a book that gives visual and geometric intuitions. books with proofs would be nice, but it's not a priority to me just yet. thank you!

You can easily check that for ##a_1 = a_2 = \cdots = a_n## the equality holds. As a hint, use the Cauchy - Schwarz inequality with ##b = (1,1,1,..,1)##. You need one more vector a. I leave it to you to figure it out and apply the inequality.

EDIT: I would recommend the book Inequalities by Hardy - Littlewood - Polya https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521358809/?tag=pfamazon01-20. This classic, is a comprehensive study of inequalities. For introductory level, I recommend practicing over a lot of exercises, that can be found easily on the net. But of course, there are lots of good introductory texts too.
 
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QuantumQuest said:
You can easily check that for ##a_1 = a_2 = \cdots = a_n## the equality holds. As a hint, use the Cauchy - Schwarz inequality with ##b = (1,1,1,..,1)##. You need one more vector a. I leave it to you to figure it out and apply the inequality.

EDIT: I would recommend the book Inequalities by Hardy - Littlewood - Polya https://www.amazon.com/dp/0521358809/?tag=pfamazon01-20. This classic, is a comprehensive study of inequalities. For introductory level, I recommend practicing over a lot of exercises, that can be found easily on the net. But of course, there are lots of good introductory texts too.
thanks i think i got it but i don't get what the "n" in front of "n(a1^2 + ... +an^2)" means
 
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is n = (<1,1,...,1>)^2...?
 
Terrell said:
thanks i think i got it but i don't get what the "n" in front of "n(a1^2 + ... +an^2)" means

In order to understanding it better, give some small value to n and see what the ##(a_1 + \cdots + a_n)^{2} \leq n(a_1^{2}+\cdots+a_n^{2})## gives.
 
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QuantumQuest said:
In order to understanding it better, give some small value to n and see what the ##(a_1 + \cdots + a_n)^{2} \leq n(a_1^{2}+\cdots+a_n^{2})## gives.
ahh got it! thanks. that's so simple that it's embarassing
 
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