When is Moment Reduced in Reinforced Concrete Design?

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The discussion revolves around the conditions under which moment reduction is applied in the design of reinforced concrete beams and slabs. Participants explore various scenarios, including continuous beams, simply supported beams, and cantilever beams, seeking clarity on when moment reductions are appropriate.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that moment reduction is generally applied over supports in continuous beams, particularly at middle supports, due to the bending moment function's characteristics.
  • Another participant questions whether moment reduction is applicable to cantilever beams and cantilever arms, suggesting that they have not encountered arguments for such reductions.
  • There is a suggestion that moment reduction may not be necessary for cantilever beams, but this remains unverified in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the application of moment reduction for cantilever beams, with some asserting that no reduction is needed while others remain uncertain. The discussion does not reach a consensus on this issue.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not provide specific cases or detailed criteria for moment reduction, leading to ambiguity regarding the application of these principles in different beam configurations.

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Hi!
I'm having some difficulty trying to clear some things when designing r.concrete slab and beam.
My question is : when do you reduce moment ?
I am aware we reduce moment over support...but when that support is in middle of beam .(continuous beam)
For simply supported beam we don't make reduction of moment.
Then i read on one place that we do not reduce moment over support in cantilever beam...is this true..?
can anyone give me cases when we do reduction of moment for beams and slabs..?
Thanx in advance!

Niz
 
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niz said:
Hi!
I'm having some difficulty trying to clear some things when designing r.concrete slab and beam.
My question is : when do you reduce moment ?
I am aware we reduce moment over support...but when that support is in middle of beam .(continuous beam)
For simply supported beam we don't make reduction of moment.
Then i read on one place that we do not reduce moment over support in cantilever beam...is this true..?
can anyone give me cases when we do reduction of moment for beams and slabs..?
Thanx in advance!

Niz

You do moment reductions over supports on continuous beams (middle supports) in general because the bending moment function you get (by using a simple statistical system approximation for your beam) has greater values (in the neighbourhoods of these points) and a different 'shape' than a more realistic moment function.
 
what about cantilever beam and cantilever arm?
do we make moment reduction for these two cases as well?
or...because of the safty we dont..?
 
niz said:
what about cantilever beam and cantilever arm?
do we make moment reduction for these two cases as well?
or...because of the safty we dont..?

I think there is no need to do moment reduction in the case of a cantilever beam, at least I didn't see a case/argument to do so yet.
 
thank you so much for your help :)
 
niz said:
thank you so much for your help :)

No problemo, I'm glad I helped. :wink:
 

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