When is the Electric Potential 0

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The discussion revolves around the concept of electric potential and its value, specifically addressing the question of where the electric potential is zero. Participants are exploring the relationship between electric potential and electric fields, as well as the conventions used in defining potential.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants attempt to relate electric potential to electric field strength, questioning whether the potential is zero when the electric field is zero. Others mention the idea that potential can be defined relative to different points, such as at infinity or near a smaller charge.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the definitions and conventions related to electric potential. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relative nature of potential and the common convention of defining potential at infinity as zero.

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Participants note the absence of a figure or specific context provided by the professor, which may influence the interpretation of the question. There is an emphasis on the generality of the question posed.

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Homework Statement


The question asks: Where is the electric potential 0?

Homework Equations


I believe the relevant equations are v=1/(4*pi*epsilon) (Q/r) or v=-Ed

The Attempt at a Solution


I think that the electric potential is 0 when the electric field is zero as well. However, I am not quite sure which equations to look at exactly or if an equation is necessary. Some answers state that the electric potential is zero when it is near the smaller charge or it is zero when the point is at infinity.
 
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Katran0595 said:

Homework Statement


The question asks: Where is the electric potential 0?

Homework Equations


I believe the relevant equations are v=1/(4*pi*epsilon) (Q/r) or v=-Ed

The Attempt at a Solution


I think that the electric potential is 0 when the electric field is zero as well. However, I am not quite sure which equations to look at exactly or if an equation is necessary. Some answers state that the electric potential is zero when it is near the smaller charge or it is zero when the point is at infinity.

Welcome to the PF.

Is there a figure that goes along with this question? Can you scan it or describe it? :smile:
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF.

Is there a figure that goes along with this question? Can you scan it or describe it? :smile:
Unfortunately there is no figure. The professor just asked us the general question :(
 
It is nothing to do with the field's being zero. Where the field is zero, that just means the potential is not changing there, in any direction.
Potential, whether electric or gravitational, is a relative matter. That is why we usually speak of potential difference. You can set any point to be at zero potential, and determine potentials elsewhere in relation to it. In particular, when we say that some conductor is grounded, we just mean that it is held at the potential we are defining as zero.
That said, a usual convention is to say that the potential at infinity is zero.
 
"Potential energy" is always relative to some given point. You can choose the potential energy to be 0 at any given point by choosing to calculate it relative to that point.
 

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