When matter and anti-matter = explosion or not

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The discussion revolves around the nature of matter and anti-matter interactions, specifically whether their collision results in an explosion or a silent annihilation. Participants explore concepts related to energy production from matter-antimatter annihilation, the definitions of energy and anti-energy, and the implications of these interactions in theoretical and practical contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about the concept of anti-energy, suggesting that if matter and anti-matter annihilate, they should cancel each other out without producing an explosion.
  • Others clarify that there is no such thing as anti-energy, emphasizing that energy is a property of matter and that annihilation produces other particles, such as photons.
  • One participant calculates that the energy from converting the mass of a grape into energy could power 1500 households for a year, raising questions about the feasibility of harnessing such energy from matter-antimatter reactions.
  • Some argue that the term "endless energy" is an exaggeration, pointing out that current technology does not allow for the easy generation of large amounts of anti-matter.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of anti-matter, with some participants noting that the "anti" refers to electric charge, while others argue that other quantum numbers are also inverted.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the existence of anti-neutrons and other antiparticles, indicating that the topic is more complex than initially presented.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on several points, including the nature of energy produced in matter-antimatter collisions, the implications of anti-energy, and the definitions surrounding anti-matter. Multiple competing views remain throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include varying definitions of energy and anti-energy, assumptions about the nature of annihilation, and the complexity of particle interactions that are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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I have been told, and it has been written that matter and anti-matter destroys each other if they happen to bump into each other. The destruction is told to generate an energy burst beyond imaginary scales.
What I have a doubt about is this: If energy that is dense enough can produce elementary particles that later can create atoms such as hydrogen - as the big bang theory, how can it be possible for colliding matter and anti-matter to create an energyburst? It would be more logical that matter turns into energy, and anti-matter turns into anti-energy. Combind, those two matters cancel each other perfectly out with no boom, no trace at all - just turns silently into nothing.

What is your thought about this?

Br.

Vidar
 
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There is no such thing as anti-energy.
 
Low-Q said:
... The destruction is told to generate an energy burst beyond imaginary scales.

It is not clear what you mean by this but you SEEM to mean that the meeting of one particle with its anti-particle would produce an unimaginably large amount of energy. That is completely wrong.
 
phinds said:
It is not clear what you mean by this but you SEEM to mean that the meeting of one particle with its anti-particle would produce an unimaginably large amount of energy. That is completely wrong.
Sorry for not being clear - English is not my native language + I am not a scientist ;-))

So why do scientists say that anti-matter is a source of "endless energy"?
When a H-bomb blows up, a tiny fraction of the matter is converted to energy due to the fusion of hydrogen atoms that turns into helium.
However, when matter and anti-matter bumps into each other, 100% of that total matter turns into energy, scientists says. One particle at the time might not produce much energy, but what about a few solar masses that collides with a few anti-solar masses? I have calculated that the energy of the mass in one grape, if its mass is converted 100% into useful energy, it should be enough to power 1500 average houesholds for one year (E=MC^2).

I am confused - maybe because of the word "anti" that I thought should also be applied to the energy that anti-matter is converted into when colliding with matter. A sort of negative energy that consumes the positive energy, and vica versa. Energy cannot occour from the nothing that has been left from the collision...

I am however quite sure that science does not have all the answers. Many assumtions, and calculations that are based on them...

Vidar
 
Another assumption I think you're making... Energy is not a separate thing, it's a property of matter. When a particle and antiparticle annihilate, other particles are always created.. maybe photons, maybe something else. The energy that's produced is the kinetic energy of these particles.
 
Low-Q said:
... So why do scientists say that anti-matter is a source of "endless energy"?

This is an exaggeration, based on the assumption that we could easily generate large amounts of anti-matter, which at present we cannot.
 
Low-Q said:
So why do scientists say that anti-matter is a source of "endless energy"?
Who exactly said that?
 
The "anti" in anti-matter refers to electric charge.

Ordinary matter is mostly made of positively charged protons, negatively charged electrons, and uncharged neutrons.

Anti-matter is mostly made of negatively charged anti-protons, positively charged anti-electrons (positrons), and uncharged neutrons (there are no "anti-neutrons").

Energy isn't charged so there's no "anti-energy".
 
DrGreg said:
The "anti" in anti-matter refers to electric charge.
No, it does not. There are neutral particles that have a distinc anti-particle, and there are other charges besides electric charge that must be opposite for an anti-particle.

Low-Q said:
However, when matter and anti-matter bumps into each other, 100% of that total matter turns into energy, scientists says. One particle at the time might not produce much energy, but what about a few solar masses that collides with a few anti-solar masses? I have calculated that the energy of the mass in one grape, if its mass is converted 100% into useful energy, it should be enough to power 1500 average houesholds for one year (E=MC^2).
Yes, the amount of energy released for any sizable amount of mass is quite significant. It's not "unlimited", however. Nor "unimaginable". We, physicists, tend to be picky about the words being used. (For good reasons.) So try to be a little more careful.

And yes, in matter-anti-matter reaction all this energy gets released. Both matter and anti-matter carry positive quantities of energy. They don't cancel each other out. They add up.
 
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DrGreg said:
(there are no "anti-neutrons")
There are. And there are anti-neutrinos and antiparticles for other charged and uncharged particles, too.
Exceptions: The neutral pion, the Z boson, the photon and the Higgs boson are their own antiparticle (or do not have one, depending on the interpretation). Gluons are a bit special in that respect, too.

The "anti" in anti-matter refers to electric charge.
No. In addition to charge, many other quantum numbers are inversed, too.
 
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Oh, I didn't even catch that. But neutrons are composite particles, so they don't really make a good example. Neutrino is basically the only interesting case.
 
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Oops. I'll get my coat. :blushing:
 

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