When to settle your differences, and when to seccede.

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This discussion centers on the conditions under which conflicting groups within a nation should resolve their differences or consider secession. The examples of Iraq, the United States during the Civil War, and Taiwan are analyzed to illustrate the complexities of national unity versus autonomy. Participants argue that if all attempts at peaceful resolution fail, and if newly formed nations can function independently, secession may be justified. The conversation emphasizes the importance of internal resolution over external intervention, highlighting historical precedents and the need for compromise.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of national sovereignty and self-determination
  • Familiarity with historical conflicts, such as the U.S. Civil War and the partition of India
  • Knowledge of ethnic and cultural dynamics in conflict resolution
  • Awareness of the role of foreign intervention in national disputes
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  • Research the implications of the U.S. Civil War on modern secessionist movements
  • Examine case studies of successful and failed secessions globally
  • Explore the impact of resource distribution on national unity and conflict
  • Investigate the role of international law in self-determination and secession
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Political scientists, historians, conflict resolution practitioners, and anyone interested in the dynamics of national unity versus autonomy will benefit from this discussion.

  • #31
Bob, you've got a really good point. How things should be is the ideal scenario for life. I mean how much easier would things in the Middle East be if everything was as it should be? But that' not the hand the world was dealt and now they have to figure out what the best way to play those cards is.

I want to respond to Russ's earlier post, number 25. The Palestinians never had their own country, but we recognized Israel in 1945 as a soverign state before the close of the second world war. If the Palestinians have never had their own country, then whose country were they part of before Israel? Just curious.
 
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misskitty said:
Bob, you've got a really good point. How things should be is the ideal scenario for life. I mean how much easier would things in the Middle East be if everything was as it should be? But that' not the hand the world was dealt and now they have to figure out what the best way to play those cards is.

I want to respond to Russ's earlier post, number 25. The Palestinians never had their own country, but we recognized Israel in 1945 as a soverign state before the close of the second world war. If the Palestinians have never had their own country, then whose country were they part of before Israel? Just curious.

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there was NO Israel intill the partition in 1948
how could anyone recognize a country BEFORE it became one

prior to the 1948 WAR the holyland was british ruled before ww1 it was turkish ruled

btw how could there be a Isreal back in the pre-1000bce era as claimed
by them when that whole region was part of the EGYPTIAN EMPIRE
in FACT the wandering JEWS NEVER LEFT LANDS OF EGYPTIAN RULE
during the whole of the EXODUS and their claimed kingdom was part of the EGYPTIAN EMPIRE intill post 1000bce except for brief perods of rebellion
 

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