When was the first double slit experiment done using a detector?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the historical and experimental aspects of the double slit experiment, particularly focusing on the role of particle detectors and their impact on interference patterns. Participants explore early experiments related to quantum mechanics and the implications of these findings.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the first experimental observation of particle detectors affecting interference patterns in double slit experiments and whether this remains a theoretical consideration.
  • One participant suggests that the Fresnel-Arago experiments with polarized light might be an early example, noting that these occurred before quantum mechanics was developed.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the most significant double-slit experiments are those conducted with both slits open and without detectors, as these demonstrate the emergence of interference patterns that lack classical explanations.
  • A participant raises a speculative question about the potential influence of Earth's magnetic field on the interference pattern, suggesting that it could be worth considering in experimental setups.
  • There is a challenge to the idea that external influences could provide a classical explanation for the interference pattern, particularly when comparing scenarios with one versus two open slits.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of external influences on interference patterns and the historical context of double slit experiments. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific impacts of particle detectors and the role of classical versus quantum explanations.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for clarity on definitions and the conditions under which interference patterns are observed, as well as the historical context of early experiments in quantum mechanics.

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When was it first experimentally seen that particle detectors can change the interference pattern effect expected in a double slit experiment? Is it still theoretical?

What were some double slit experiments in the early era of quantum mechanics? How were they handled?
 
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aceleratio said:
When was it first experimentally seen that particle detectors can change the interference pattern effect expected in a double slit experiment? Is it still theoretical?
The first experimental demonstration was probably the Fresnel-Arago experiments with polarized light. These preceded the development of quantum mechanics by about a century, so of course no one at the time realized that that's what they had done. At the other extreme, this experiment is a well-executed modern example.

Do remember, however, that if you're trying to distinguish classical physics from quantum physics the most important double-slit experiments are the ones in which both slits are open, there are no detectors providing which path information, particles are sent towards the slits one at a time, and the interference pattern builds up over time, one particle impact at a time. There is simply no classical explanation for this phenomenon, while conversely there's nothing especially surprising about not getting an interference pattern.
 
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Hi Nugatory, good info,

Nugatory said:
There is simply no classical explanation for this phenomenon, while conversely there's nothing especially surprising about not getting an interference pattern.

I have long wondered whether there is any specific reason that we can exclude the possibility of the interference pattern being caused by streaming with waves or vibrations in the Earth's magnetic field, and that outside of these influences the trajectories might be straight?

Twin Slits In A Farriday Cage!
Almost a great sounding movie, but is it an experiment worth considering in order to eliminate any influence from electromagnetic "weather"?
 
RelativeRelativity said:
...outside of these influences the trajectories might be straight?
I don't see how any amount of influencing trajectories can lead to a classical explanation of how an interference pattern builds up one particle at a time when two slits are open but not when only one slit is open.
 
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Of course, thank you most kindly :)
 

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