When will Mike hit the water when jumping off a diving board on the moon?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving projectile motion on the moon. The scenario describes Mike jumping off a diving board located 10.0 meters above a swimming pool, launching straight up at a speed of 15.0 m/s, with the gravitational acceleration on the moon being one-sixth that of Earth. Participants are tasked with determining the time it takes for Mike to hit the water after his jump.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of the equation of motion, specifically x = x0 + v0t + 1/2at², and express concerns about the accuracy of their calculations. There are attempts to apply the quadratic formula to solve for time, with some participants questioning the validity of their algebraic manipulations and the interpretation of the results.

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Several participants have provided feedback on the original poster's approach, suggesting that while the equation setup appears correct, there may be errors in the algebraic steps taken. Some participants have offered guidance on using the quadratic formula and completing the square, indicating a collaborative effort to clarify the problem without reaching a definitive solution.

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Participants note the challenges posed by a lack of recent experience with algebra, which may be impacting their ability to solve the problem correctly. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the terms used in the quadratic formula and the setup of the equation.

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Hey there. I've got a physics problem that is troubling me. I feel like I should be able to do it, but i's been a while since I've done much physics and I could use some help.

Homework Statement


Mike jumps off a springy diving board located 10.0m above the surface of a swimming pool on the moon. He launches straight up at 15.0 m/s. (assume he misses the diving board on the way back down.) If gmoon is exactly one-sixth gearth, at what time does he hit the water?

Homework Equations


I used, x=x0+v0t+1/2at2, but my answers didn't work when I plugged them back in, I think my math may be way off or something.

The Attempt at a Solution


0=10+(15)t+(1/2)(-9.80/6)t2
0=10+15t-(9.80/12)t2
-10=t(15-(9.80/12)t)

t= -10, 30.61

It can't be -10, but when I plug both of them back into the original equation, it never works out.
Thanks in advance for any help!
-Tom
 
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gldnsrfbord said:
Hey there. I've got a physics problem that is troubling me. I feel like I should be able to do it, but i's been a while since I've done much physics and I could use some help.

Homework Statement


Mike jumps off a springy diving board located 10.0m above the surface of a swimming pool on the moon. He launches straight up at 15.0 m/s. (assume he misses the diving board on the way back down.) If gmoon is exactly one-sixth gearth, at what time does he hit the water?


Homework Equations


I used, x=x0+v0t+1/2at2, but my answers didn't work when I plugged them back in, I think my math may be way off or something.


The Attempt at a Solution


0=10+(15)t+(1/2)(-9.80/6)t2
0=10+15t-(9.80/12)t2
yes, solve for t using the quadratic formula solution t = -b +/ sq rt...etc.
-10=t(15-(9.80/12)t)

t= -10, 30.61
no, math is off.
It can't be -10, but when I plug both of them back into the original equation, it never works out.
Thanks in advance for any help!
-Tom
Your equation and signage and values are correct, but your algebra is off. Solve the quadtratic equation using the quadratic solution formula.
 
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gldnsrfbord said:
Hey there. I've got a physics problem that is troubling me. I feel like I should be able to do it, but i's been a while since I've done much physics and I could use some help.

Homework Statement


Mike jumps off a springy diving board located 10.0m above the surface of a swimming pool on the moon. He launches straight up at 15.0 m/s. (assume he misses the diving board on the way back down.) If gmoon is exactly one-sixth gearth, at what time does he hit the water?


Homework Equations


I used, x=x0+v0t+1/2at2, but my answers didn't work when I plugged them back in, I think my math may be way off or something.


The Attempt at a Solution


0=10+(15)t+(1/2)(-9.80/6)t2
0=10+15t-(9.80/12)t2
-10=t(15-(9.80/12)t)

t= -10, 30.61

It can't be -10, but when I plug both of them back into the original equation, it never works out.
Thanks in advance for any help!
-Tom

Your initial equation looks correct. Try solving it with the Quadratic Formula:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_V8KsSIiGj...AAFIU/vNtErLdchMw/s1600/Quadratic+Formula.gif

Quadratic+Formula.gif
 
When ab = 0, then it is true that a = 0 or b = 0. But when ab = -10, it is not true that a = -10 or b = -10.

That logic can only be used when there is no constant factor. You need to complete the square or use the quadratic formula to find the values of t. The formula is much easier to understand and remember if you know how to complete the square.
 
Holy cow! We triple-teamed!
 
Thanks guys, I guys a couple years away from algebra lead to me completely forgetting how to do it!

I'm plugging (-15+sqroot(152+(98.0/3)))/(9.80/6) and getting ~0.644. Does that sound right? I'm really not too sure about that. And when I change the + to a - I get -19.011. Is there still something that I'm forgetting to do?
 
gldnsrfbord said:
Thanks guys, I guys a couple years away from algebra lead to me completely forgetting how to do it!

I'm plugging (-15+sqroot(152+(98.0/3)))/(9.80/6) and getting ~0.644. Does that sound right? I'm really not too sure about that. And when I change the + to a - I get -19.011. Is there still something that I'm forgetting to do?

Doesn't look quite right. First of all, there is no 2x in the denominator. And the 2nd term inside the radical doesn't look right either. I could just be having trouble reading the equation without Latex, though.
 

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