Where can I find a text about heavy elements migration?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the migration of heavy elements, particularly siderophile elements like molybdenum, during the formation of Earth. Participants explore the processes involved in the sinking of these elements into the core when the planet was still molten, as well as the implications of the iron catastrophe and the late heavy bombardment.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks sources discussing the broader concept of heavy siderophile elements sinking into the core during Earth's formation, specifically mentioning molybdenum.
  • Another participant references the iron catastrophe, questioning why other dense elements would not also sink, given their densities compared to iron and nickel.
  • There is mention of the late heavy bombardment as a potential source of heavy elements in the crust, suggesting that the process may be more straightforward than initially considered.
  • A participant expresses frustration at not finding relevant literature on heavy element migration despite searching with appropriate keywords.
  • Another participant asserts that the density of trace elements is not relevant to their migration, emphasizing the importance of solubilities instead.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the complexity of the processes involved in heavy element migration and the relevance of certain factors, such as density versus solubility. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on the specific mechanisms or sources of heavy elements.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in available literature and the need for more specific sources regarding the migration of heavy elements during Earth's formation. There is also uncertainty regarding the role of volcanic activity versus meteoric sources in bringing heavy elements to the surface.

Guilherme Franco
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Let me be more specific:

I'm needing some source that talks, in a more broad way, about how heavier elements tend to "sink into the core" during Earth's formation (when we're talking about siderophile elements, that readily combine with molten iron). Wikipedia's page about the Goldschmidt classification comments that but assigns no specific source to that claim.

My particular interest is about Molydenum, which is siderophile, and I found articles talking about its concentration in Earth's mantle and crust and about what was expected of it.

But I can't manage to find any more broad comments on the question of heavy siderophile elements tending to "sink" during Earth's formation when it's still mostly molten rock.

I need this just to serve as a reference to this comment.

I've even downloaded some books on astrophysics of planet formation, but they don't talk about the particular question of element migration after the rocky planet has been just formed and is still hot enough to have molten rock on the surface.

Thanks by the help!
 
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Let me try something. You are talking about the iron catastrophe:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_catastrophe

1. the entire planet became molten, so why would orther dense elements not sink as well?
Densities
iron: 7.874 g/cm3 and Nickel: 8.903g/cm3
Mo: 10.28g/cm3
2. Consider the late heavy bombardment which is thought to have bought many of the current crustal heavy elements to earth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Heavy_Bombardment

So I think you are making something straightforward more complex than it needs to be.
 
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jim mcnamara said:
Let me try something. You are talking about the iron catastrophe:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_catastrophe

1. the entire planet became molten, so why would orther dense elements not sink as well?
Densities
iron: 7.874 g/cm3 and Nickel: 8.903g/cm3
Mo: 10.28g/cm3
2. Consider the late heavy bombardment which is thought to have bought many of the current crustal heavy elements to earth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Heavy_Bombardment

So I think you are making something straightforward more complex than it needs to be.

I was just being specific about what I wanted to know. The question is just that, when looking with keywords associated with heavy element migration towards the core, I didn't found any of this.

Now, another question if you know: Does volcanic activity bring up material from layers deep enough to have a greater richness of heavy elements than the crust? Or are meteors a more important source?

Thanks!
 
jim mcnamara said:
1. the entire planet became molten, so why would orther dense elements not sink as well?
Densities
iron: 7.874 g/cm3 and Nickel: 8.903g/cm3
Mo: 10.28g/cm3
The density of trace elements is irrelevant. All that matters is their solubilities.
 

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