Where Can You Drop Objects From 30 Meters High for Scientific Experiments?

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The discussion revolves around finding suitable methods to drop objects from heights of 30 meters for scientific experiments focused on measuring impact forces in water. Participants explore various ideas and alternatives for achieving the required drop height safely and effectively.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a drone but notes it was ineffective at their location.
  • Another participant seeks a more stable and controllable method for dropping objects.
  • A high board at a swimming pool is proposed as a potential drop point, though access may be challenging.
  • Concerns are raised about legal restrictions on dropping objects from bridges or tall buildings, with an alternative method involving a fixed height and a variable cord length suggested.
  • Another idea involves using a propulsion method, such as a crossbow or compressed air, to simulate the drop height from a lower elevation.
  • One participant proposes dropping from lower heights and applying scaling laws to estimate results for higher drops.
  • An alternative method discussed includes throwing the object upwards to achieve a parabolic trajectory before it descends into the water.
  • Using compressed air to launch the object downwards from a lower height is also suggested.
  • Climbing a 30-meter sailboat mast and dropping the object while the boat is heeled is humorously mentioned as a potential method.
  • A competitive swimming pool with diving platforms is recommended as a practical location, along with the idea of creating a slingshot to launch objects to the desired height.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views and methods for achieving the desired drop height, with no consensus on a single approach. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best method to use.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various assumptions about safety, legality, and practicality of the proposed methods, but these factors remain unresolved in the discussion.

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Hello everyone,

I need some idea brainstorming. I am doing an experiment where I drop objects into water (in a lake) and measure the impact forces. Now, the thing is the objects need to be dropped from as high as 30 meters up in the air and other lower heights as well. Can anyone think of a good idea to take the objects to that height? I tried using a drone, but it didn't work very well at that location. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
 
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Well, I am actually looking for something that is more stable and easier to control.
 
High board on a swimming pool.
Access might be difficult to acquire, or will require some convincing persuasion.
 
There are probably laws against dropping things off bridges, tower blocks or hotels. You could have a fixed height with a variable length of cord. Lower the object to the drop height, then release it. You could reduce the size of the pond and increase the safety by sliding the object down a vertical guide wire.

Another possibility would be to generate the velocity equivalent to a particular drop height by propelling the object downwards using something like a crossbow, elastic, compressed air or an orange gun. You might then be able to do all your experiments on a test stand less than 20 feet high. You would need to measure the speed of the object with an acoustic doppler or radar sensor.
 
Why not drop from lower heights and use scaling laws to factor up to the desired heights
 
Another alternative. What goes up must come down, so you might throw it upwards at a velocity slightly greater than you want it to come down. It could have a parabolic trajectory, from land to water.
 
Can you use compressed air to "fire" the object downwards from a lower height?
 
Climb to the top of a 30 m sailboat mast, then get the skipper to heel the vessel until you are over water. Whee :kiss:
 
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Do you have access to a competitive swimming pool. The 10m, 20m, 30m platforms seem like they would be perfect for your tests. Failing the pool being available. What are the weights you are working with? It would be relatively easy and repeatable to create a slingshot of sorts that would launch somewhat soft and achieve said elevation. That being accomplished anybody of water would be serviceable. You would need to compensate for the slight angular impact. I often launch water balloons several hundred feet but not for scientific purposes.
 

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