Where Can You Find Information on Sets with Mass Zero?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of "Sets with Mass Zero," which appears to be a misunderstanding or miscommunication regarding "Sets with Measure Zero." Participants explore resources and background knowledge necessary to understand this mathematical concept, touching on the relevance of measure theory and calculus.

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  • One participant initially inquires about "Sets with Mass Zero" and seeks online resources related to this topic.
  • Another participant suggests that the term might actually refer to "Sets with Measure Zero."
  • A later reply confirms that the original inquiry was indeed about "Sets with Measure Zero" and expresses gratitude for the clarification.
  • One participant questions the mathematical background needed to fully understand "Sets with Measure Zero," indicating that their current knowledge is limited to Calculus I.
  • Another participant recommends taking a measure theory course and mentions that a solid understanding of analysis, particularly convergence and Riemann integration, is beneficial.
  • A specific book, "Measures, Integrals and Martingales" by R. Schilling, is suggested as a good introductory resource that requires minimal prior knowledge.
  • A participant expresses their intent to review the recommended book and questions its helpfulness given their current academic status as an incoming freshman.
  • Further discussion indicates that while the book is accessible, a deeper understanding may require more than just Calculus I, and participants suggest that revisiting the material after gaining more experience could be beneficial.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the initial term "Sets with Mass Zero" was likely a misunderstanding of "Sets with Measure Zero." However, there is no consensus on the exact level of mathematical background required to understand the concept fully, as opinions vary on the prerequisites for the recommended book.

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There are limitations regarding the assumptions about prior knowledge and the specific mathematical concepts that may be necessary to grasp "Sets with Measure Zero." The discussion does not resolve the varying levels of understanding among participants.

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where to find??

well, some people told me that "Sets with Mass Zero" are quite interesting, btw i have no idea what they are, but i could not find anything related to them. So could anyone recommend anything online about these??
 
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Are you sure it isn't supposed to read "Sets with measure zero" ?
 
CompuChip said:
Are you sure it isn't supposed to read "Sets with measure zero" ?
Maybe, i don't know, but i think it might be what i am looking for. Btw i just translated the "title" from my language to English.
 
btw. i found wat i was looking for. Like you said CompuChip, it is Sets with measure zero. thnx
 
well, i would like to know what backgroud in mathematics one should have to be able to fully understand "sets with measure zero", because they just seem to be out of my league for the moment. Btw Calculus I is all i got at the moment.
 
If you really want to understand them you should take measure theory. In my curriculum, it was a third year course, though I actually think you don't need much more than some analysis (mainly: convergence and Riemann integration). A good introduction which doesn't require much knowledge is Measures, Integrals and Martingales by R. Schilling
 
well i haven't yet gotten into any university, i am going to be a freshman this fall. However, i am going to have a look at this
http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~schilling/measures_integrals_and_martingales/index.html


Will this be helpful?
 
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That's the book I meant. In my opinion, it's very accessible and doesn't require much knowledge (at least, for the first 10 chapters or so). If you want to go through all the proofs step by step, you might need a little more than Calc I, but in general I think you should be able to get the point.
Although, after three years of university level courses, I may underestimate the level. You can buy the book anyway, skim through it; in two or three years, you can always read it again and go through the details.
 

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