Where do "Other" Frequency's Come From when Multiplying Cos Waves?

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon observed when multiplying two cosine waves, specifically focusing on the emergence of additional frequencies beyond the original wave frequencies. Participants explore the mathematical underpinnings of this phenomenon, including the application of trigonometric identities and Fourier transforms.

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  • One participant inquires about the origin of additional frequencies when multiplying two cosine waves with similar frequencies, providing a specific example with a mathematical expression.
  • Another participant identifies the resulting frequencies as the sum and difference of the original frequencies, referencing product-to-sum trigonometric identities.
  • A subsequent participant seeks confirmation of their understanding regarding the addition and multiplication of waves, specifically relating to the frequencies involved.
  • A later reply confirms the understanding of the participant regarding the behavior of sine and cosine waves in this context.

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Participants generally agree on the mathematical principles involved, particularly regarding the identification of frequencies resulting from the multiplication of cosine waves. However, the discussion does not delve into deeper implications or alternative interpretations, leaving some aspects of the phenomenon open for further exploration.

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When you multiply two cos waves together, where do all the "other" frequency's come f

When you multiply two cos waves with similar frequency's you get a graph that looks like this:

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=(cos(2*pi*0.8*x))*(cos(2*pi*0.9*x))

With equation y=(cos(2*pi*0.8*x))*(cos(2*pi*0.9*x))

Now if you analyse this wave with a Fourier transform to see the the frequency domain there are lots of other frequency's as well as the 0.8HZ and the 0.9HZ that seem to have come from no where.

Can someone please show me the maths that shows where these frequency's come from?

Thanks
 
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The frequencies you see are .8+.9=1.7 Hz and .9-.8=.1 Hz. See the product to sum trig identities:
http://www.cliffsnotes.com/study_guide/ProductSum-and-SumProduct-Identities.topicArticleId-11658,articleId-11616.html
 
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ahhh okay, thanks, that's helped allot. so just to confirm, when you add 2 waves you get a wave which has 2 frequency's, and these 2 frequency's are the frequency's of the original 2 waves. And when you multiply two waves you use trig identity's to see the equivalent solution as a sum.
Is this correct?
 


Yes, that is correct (as long as you are talking about sine/cosine waves)
 

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