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The discussion centers on the nature of fire and smoldering, specifically addressing what happens to fire when it is extinguished. Fire is defined as a reaction involving glowing chemical vapors produced by the combustion of candle wax, which ceases when the reaction halts. The conversation also distinguishes between fire and smoldering, noting that smoldering is a slower reaction that still requires oxygen but does not produce flames. Additionally, it is clarified that the glowing of embers is a result of heat rather than fire itself.

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when u have a fire on a candle, and u blow the fire out, where does it go? does it evaporate into thin air? or does it just disappear? can fire really evaporate? i been wondering about this question ever since my math/science teacher brought it up
 
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The fire itself is the reaction taking place when the wax of a candle burns up the wick. I guess you could say the fire turned into smoke.
 
"Fire" is simply iridescent chemical vapors. As long as the temperature is sufficiently high the vapors will glow, as soon as the temperature falls below some critical point the vapors will still be there but will not glow. Since the glowing vapors are a product of the chemical reaction occurring in the fuel, when the reaction halts so will production of the vapors. Thus snuffing the flame eliminates both the source of the vapors and the energy required to create a glow in the vapors.
 
On a related note, what's the difference between something on fire and something smoldering?

If a log is in a campfire, it can either burn (fire) to ash, or smolder to ash. But it seems like fire is more than just heavy-duty smoldering. When the breeze blows, sometimes smoldering things catch fire. And often there's a sound associated with this.

Also, when you blow out a candle, sometimes the wick continues to smolder for a few seconds.

Does smoldering require oxygen like fire? I guess I could test this myself :devil: :eek:
 
tony873004 said:
On a related note, what's the difference between something on fire and something smoldering?

If a log is in a campfire, it can either burn (fire) to ash, or smolder to ash. But it seems like fire is more than just heavy-duty smoldering. When the breeze blows, sometimes smoldering things catch fire. And often there's a sound associated with this.

Also, when you blow out a candle, sometimes the wick continues to smolder for a few seconds.

Does smoldering require oxygen like fire? I guess I could test this myself :devil: :eek:

I believe that smoldering means that the reaction is progressing slowing, not producing enough heat to create flames. Addition of O_2 could change that.
 
tony873004 said:
On a related note, what's the difference between something on fire and something smoldering?

I would call hot, glowing combusting gases 'flames', and hot glowing combusting solid carbonny stuff 'embers'.

Also, when you blow out a candle, sometimes the wick continues to smolder for a few seconds.

Yeah, it's still hot. Being solid, it takes longer to cool down than the gases, which are quickly cooled and dissipated.

Does smoldering require oxygen like fire?

You certainly need oxygen to have a fire. If you have no fire, you have no heat, and therefore you have nothing to make the embers glow. However, if you remove oxygen from a fire, the embers will continue to glow, but will cool down until they stop glowing.

The glowing isn't a direct result of fire, it's a result of heat.

Bear in mind that heating stuff up without oxygen will often also cause it to glow. The difference is that with no oxygen, no combustion is occurring, it's just hot and glowing. Fire requires oxgyen, since it's combustion. This happens to produce heat, which is why everything glows.
 
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