Where does the energy come from?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of electrons in a quantum mechanical setup involving an electrostatic accelerator and a potential barrier. It highlights the phenomenon of quantum tunneling, where electrons can reach a detector even when the barrier's potential is higher than the energy imparted by the accelerator. Participants question how energy conservation holds in this scenario, as it appears that electrons could gain energy when crossing the barrier. The conversation emphasizes that energy conservation is maintained in quantum mechanics, with the understanding that measurement processes and the wave function's probabilistic nature play crucial roles. Ultimately, the dialogue underscores the complexities of energy states and measurements in quantum theory.
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Thus we wouldn't even have to ask the question that started this thread ("where does the energy come from?") if we interpret the wave function as giving the probability that the electron will be detected in the classically forbidden zone, rather than as the probability that the electron is violating conservation of energy by being there.
Why do you think so - do you think that when the electron is detected, the description of such process including the detector will be such that the total energy is conserved?
 
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If you include the detector in the description then the total energy is conserved.

For example, if you have an electron gun at 0V firing 10keV electrons at a -11kV wall, then they're supposed to be reflected. Now if you put a probe in the forbidden region near the wall, you should be able to get some current in the probe. The probe is at some voltage > -10kV, so the electrons are allowed to propagate in the probe. You can measure the energy of the electrons in the probe by looking at the IV characteristics.

You can't directly measure a negative energy electron, but once the electron appears on the other side of the barrier (and has positive k. energy again), you can check that the energy was indeed conserved.
 

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