Why Can Electrons Tunnel Through Barriers in Quantum Mechanics?

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The discussion centers around the phenomenon of barrier tunneling in quantum mechanics, contrasting it with classical mechanics. Participants explore the reasons behind tunneling, the conditions under which it occurs, and the appropriate formulas for calculating tunneling probabilities versus higher energy scenarios.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes barrier tunneling as a process where an electron can penetrate a potential barrier despite having lower energy than the barrier itself, contrasting this with classical mechanics which predicts total reflection.
  • Another participant states that there is no definitive "why" for tunneling, attributing it to the properties of the wavefunction rather than specific reasons.
  • Questions are raised about the applicability of the tunneling formula when the electron's energy is higher than the barrier, with one participant asserting that a different formula is needed in such cases.
  • It is mentioned that the formula provided for tunneling is an approximation and is valid only when the electron's energy is significantly lower than the barrier height.
  • Some participants note that understanding tunneling and other quantum mechanics effects requires knowledge of the Schrödinger equation and scattering theory, which may not be covered in introductory texts.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the concepts of tunneling and the associated mathematical frameworks. There is no consensus on the reasons behind tunneling or the specific formulas to be used in different energy scenarios, indicating ongoing debate and exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in understanding due to the lack of exposure to advanced topics such as the Schrödinger equation and scattering theory, which are necessary for a deeper comprehension of tunneling phenomena.

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This discussion may be useful for students and individuals interested in quantum mechanics, particularly those seeking to understand the principles of barrier tunneling and the mathematical approaches used in quantum theory.

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Barrier tunneling happens when, let say, an electron tunnels through a region when it has lower energy compared to the energy of the region (potential barrier).

What differs Quantum from classical mechanics is that CM states the electron will never be able to penetrate the potential barrier while QM states there is finite probability the electron will be observed at the other side of the barrier as if nothing happens inside the barrier.

The formula used to calculate the probability is:

T = e^{-2kL} ~where ~k = \sqrt{\frac{8 \pi^2 m (V_0 - E)}{h^2}}

I want to ask several questions:
1. Why an electron can penetrate through the barrier even though it has lower energy compared to the barrier?

2. CM states that if the energy of electron is higher than the barrier, it will definitely passes through while QM states there is finite chance that it will be reflected back. Why does QM states that? Why doesn't the electron behaves just like what CM predicts, penetrating through the barrier when it has higher energy than the barrier?

3. Can we use the same formula to calculate the probability when electron has higher energy compared to the barrier? Or because it is not tunneling (the term "tunneling" only applies when electron has lower energy with respect to the barrier) we can't use the formula (the formula is strictly limited to "tunneling")?

4. If we can't use the same formula, is there other formula used to calculate the transmission probability when electron has higher energy compared to barrier (because in QM the probability of electron passing through barrier is not 100% even though it has higher energy)?

Thanks
 
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1&2: There is no "why" for these things - those are the properties of the wavefunction and not restricted to electrons.
3. You use a different formula for probabilities at higher energies to that used for tunnelling.
4. When the incoming particle energy is higher than the barrier energy there are more terms in the wavefunction than when the energy is lower.

By the time students usually meet these concepts they have already met the Schrödinger equation and have done some calculations involved with scattering and various potentials. You questions suggest that you may not have seen this groundwork. There are lectures online that can help with this - which textbook are you working from?
 
No, I haven't learned about scattering and Schrödinger equation. I use college physics 7th edition by Serway.

Thanks a lot for your explanation
 
songoku said:
3. Can we use the same formula to calculate the probability when electron has higher energy compared to the barrier?

No, because the formula you gave is only an approximation to the exact formula. It applies in situations in which the electron's energy is much lower than the "height" of the barrier, and (I think) the barrier is not too "thick".

There is a single formula that can be used for all energies and thicknesses. Take the formula for ##t## listed on

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectangular_potential_barrier

under "Transmission and Reflection", use it to find ##T = |t|^2 = t^*t##, and substitute the definitions of ##k_0## and ##k_1## that you'll find earlier on the page.
 
No, I haven't learned about scattering and Schrödinger equation. I use college physics 7th edition by Serway.
... that looks like an introductory college text ... so Serway has just given you the equation without telling you where it comes from.
Now I think I understand where you are coming from:

Tunnelling, and other QM effects, are a result of the statistical characteristics that Nature shows on the small scale.
On large scales, the possible variations tend to average out to give the classical "laws"... the exception are quite rare so they require very sensitive equipment or special situations to set up.

To get the details though - you have to wait until you learn about the Schrödinger equation ... which would be introduced in a second-year college course.
 

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