Where Should the Third Particle Be Placed for Desired Center of Mass?

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The problem involves determining the placement of a third particle in a system of three particles to achieve a specific center of mass. The context is within the subject area of mechanics, specifically focusing on the center of mass calculations in a two-dimensional plane.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss setting up equations based on the center of mass formula and express uncertainty in solving for the coordinates of the third particle. There are attempts to simplify expressions and cross-multiply, with some participants questioning the correctness of their algebraic manipulations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on algebraic steps and clarifying misunderstandings. There is a collaborative effort to identify errors in calculations and to ensure the correct approach is being followed, though no consensus on a final solution has been reached.

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Participants mention challenges with algebra, which may affect their ability to progress in solving the problem. The original poster expresses confidence in their understanding of calculus, contrasting with their difficulties in algebra.

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[SOLVED] Center of Mass problem

Homework Statement


A 3.12 kg particle has the xy coordinates (-1.76 m, 0.652 m), and a 2.89 kg particle has the xy coordinates (0.380 m, -0.636 m). Both lie on a horizontal plane. At what (a)x and (b)y coordinates must you place a 3.74 kg particle such that the center of mass of the three-particle system has the coordinates (-0.565 m, -0.601 m)?


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The Attempt at a Solution


I know this problem is extremely easy but I'm just having trouble getting it. I solve for x(com) and y(com) =

-.565 = (3.12(-1.76)+2.89(.380)+3.74(x))/3.12+2.89+3.74
-.601 = (3.12(.652)+2.89(-.636)+3.74(y))/3.12+2.89+3.74

This is correct right? So how do I pull out to solve for x and y?
 
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Try simplifying your expressions and cross-multiplying?
 
I've tried that and I'm just doing something wrong I think
 
There is nothing wrong with your approach. Maybe if you could post the steps to get the values of x and y someone could figure out where you are going wrong.
 
M total = 9.75

So -.565 = (-5.4912+1.0982+3.74(x)) / 9.75 -> (-.653(x))/9.75 -> -.066974359(x) = -.565

So x = 8.436064315 but I did it wrong apparently.
 
In the numerator you have (-5.4912 + 1.0982 + 3.74x).
You can't add the numbers together to get (-.653x).

Instead you have (-4.393 + 3.74x).
Only the last number is multiplied by x.
 
Can I divide the 3.74x by 9 though?
 
Why would you want to? As mace2 pointed out the equation you want to solve is (3.74*x-4.393)/9.75=-.565.
 
So what should my next step be? Sorry my algebra is horrible but I have no problem in calculus. Go figure.
 
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I would multiply both sides of the equation by 9.75. Shouldn't you? Clear the fraction first. BTW problems in algebra should be causing you HUGE problems in calculus. I've never seen the reverse. Go figure.
 
  • #11
Yeah I was just about to ask that. Thanks for the help got it figured out :P
 

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