Where to Find Ancient Papers by Einstein and De Sitter?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around locating ancient papers by Albert Einstein and Willem De Sitter, specifically from around 1916. Participants explore various sources and methods for accessing these historical documents, including journal archives and online collections.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding older papers by Einstein and De Sitter, noting that Google Scholar and local libraries have not been helpful.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the references being used and suggests checking specific databases like Inspec.
  • A participant shares that they found some papers through various online searches but is still seeking specific works by Einstein, including his 1916 paper on gravitation and his 1915 paper on the perihelion of Mercury.
  • One participant mentions that the collected works of Einstein are being scanned and made available online, providing links to the collection and noting that much of the work is in German.
  • Another participant points out that the digital versions of the papers are not available in the mentioned archive.
  • Further, a participant provides links to specific scans of Einstein's papers and mentions a translation of the Mercury paper, while expressing uncertainty about the quality of the additional comments in that source.
  • One participant thanks another for the helpful information and acknowledges finding a relevant paper they had previously overlooked.
  • A final suggestion is made to check university libraries for complete collections of scientists' works.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the availability of the papers, as some suggest potential sources while others indicate that specific papers are not available digitally. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best methods to access these historical documents.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention limitations in their searches, including the language of the documents and the availability of digital versions. There is also uncertainty regarding the quality of certain sources provided.

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Hey all,

I was looking for some older papers by Einstein and De Sitter from around 1916 and my search is coming up blank. Google (Scholar) is not returning anything useful, the journal archives don't go nearly so far back, the particular volumes are not on archive.org, and even my local libraries don't seem to have them. Does anyone know of any other reliable sources for these old papers?
 
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Can you give the reference you're using to find it?

When you say journal archives, do you mean databases like inspec?
 
After a lot of bouncing around on Google, I found some of the papers in random locations, but am still looking for some of Einstein's:

Einstein A, (1916) Approximate integration of the field equations of gravitation. Sitzungsberichte der Königlich Preußischen Akademie der Wissenschaften (Berlin) 688–696.

and also his 1915 GR paper (on the perihelion of Mercury.)

By journal archives I meant going to the journal's website, if they have one, and consulting their archive of old issues.
 
Thanks, SteamKing. They don't appear to have digital versions of these papers, though.
 
NanakiXIII said:
After a lot of bouncing around on Google, I found some of the papers in random locations, but am still looking for some of Einstein's:

Einstein A, (1916) Approximate integration of the field equations of gravitation. Sitzungsberichte der Königlich Preußischen Akademie der Wissenschaften (Berlin) 688–696.

and also his 1915 GR paper (on the perihelion of Mercury.)

By journal archives I meant going to the journal's website, if they have one, and consulting their archive of old issues.

Scans of the Einstein Annalen der Physik papers are at http://einstein-annalen.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/related_texts/sitzungsberichte. Wiley has the 1916 Foundation paper as pdf at http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/andp.19163540702/pdf.

A translation and scan of the original German version of the Mercury paper is at http://www.gsjournal.net/old/eeuro/vankov.pdf. I haven't read the comments added by that author and I'm not familiar with the journal, so I can't comment on their quality.
 
Thanks, fzero! Just what I needed! I actually came across the Vankov paper, but hadn't noticed that the original was attached... :redface:
 
My school's science and engineering library has the complete collected works of many scientists. I suggest you search there for these things if you go to university.
 

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