Where Will the Candlelight Go?: Investigating Centrifugal Force

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The discussion centers on the behavior of a candle flame in a jar placed on a horizontally rolling plate. Participants explore how centrifugal force affects the flame, with some suggesting it would move outward while others argue it would remain stable due to the jar's fixed position. The analogy of a marble in the jar is used to illustrate the concept, indicating that a marble would move outward while the flame, being less dense than air, would potentially move towards the plate's axis. Clarification is sought on whether the jar and candle are fixed in place, which is confirmed by a participant. The conversation highlights the complexities of understanding motion and forces in a rotating system.
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Homework Statement


Horizontal plate is rolling around its horizontal axis. On the plate few meters away from this axis there is a jar with a burning candle inside

Homework Equations


Where would go the candlelight/flame , i mean which side would it turn and why

The Attempt at a Solution


I think there are 2 answers for me at the moment.
Normal centrifugal force and the flame would try to escape from this rolling plate (haha i can't say this another way)
Or it wouldn't move beacose jar is new environment/center which don't lead inertial force or flame which is gas beacose of jar wouldn't have to push the air.
 
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korec123 said:

Homework Statement


Horizontal plate is rolling around its horizontal axis. On the plate few meters away from this axis there is a jar with a burning candle inside

Homework Equations


Where would go the candlelight/flame , i mean which side would it turn and why

The Attempt at a Solution


I think there are 2 answers for me at the moment.
Normal centrifugal force and the flame would try to escape from this rolling plate (ha-ha i can't say this another way)
Or it wouldn't move because jar is new environment/center which don't lead inertial force or flame which is gas because of jar wouldn't have to push the air.
Hello korec123. Welcome to PF !

I think you need to do a more thorough job of describing the situation here.

Can you post an image for this?
 
I'm going to guess this is a round horizontal plate spinning on its vertical axis.
Think of a marble in the jar. Where will it go? Why?
A flame is less dense than air. Where will it go?
 
Hmm, i if there would be a marble , it will go with a jar outside the plate , going with this flame would go opposite way , i mean it would move towards vertical axis.
But what if candle and jar can't move?
 
korec123 said:
But what if candle and jar can't move?
I think the problem assumes the jar is stuck to the plate and the candle is stuck to the bottom of the jar.
 
so am i right?
 
Yes.
 

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