Which city ranks as the smartest in America?

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The discussion revolves around the ranking of cities in America based on educational attainment, specifically focusing on which cities are considered the "smartest." Participants reference a list from Forbes.com that ranks metro areas according to the percentage of residents with at least a bachelor's degree, as well as other educational metrics. The conversation touches on various cities, their characteristics, and the implications of these rankings.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that college towns tend to rank higher due to the concentration of students and university employees, which could skew the data.
  • There is a mention of the influence of local businesses in retaining graduates, potentially boosting educational attainment statistics.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of the rankings, with some participants expressing skepticism about the absence of major cities like Boston.
  • Participants discuss the quality of water in Corvallis, with some attributing the city's educational success to its environment and local amenities.
  • Some participants highlight the presence of professionals, such as engineers and medical doctors, in Corvallis, which may contribute to its ranking.
  • There are humorous exchanges about the characteristics of various states, particularly Kansas, and their perceived lack of excitement compared to other regions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and skepticism regarding the rankings. While some acknowledge the influence of educational institutions in certain cities, others question the methodology and outcomes of the survey, indicating that multiple competing views remain.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the rankings may not account for various factors such as cost of living, local demographics, and the transient nature of college towns, which could affect the educational attainment statistics.

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Readers interested in urban studies, educational demographics, and regional characteristics of American cities may find this discussion relevant.

  • #31
binzing said:
Kansas is the most boring state to drive through! Sorry to all residents, but it is. Totally flat, and the time I went through, covered in snow. How do you people survive without seeing mountains?

Sorry? Nah... we take that with pride... We are mathematically superior! See here:

http://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/200310/pancake-kansas.cfm"

"The scientists compared the two surfaces?Kansas and the pancake?using special geographic information software. Topographic elevation data for Kansas was taken from a digital scale model prepared by the United States Geological Survey.

The pancake was purchased from an International House of Pancakes. "The importance of this research dictated that we not be daunted by the 'No Food or Drink' sign posted in the microscopy room," write the authors.

How flat is Kansas, compared to a pancake? Fonstad, Pugatch, and Vogt explain that:
Mathematically, a value of 1.000 would indicate perfect, platonic flatness. The calculated flatness of the pancake transect is approximately 0.957, which is pretty flat, but far from perfectly flat.

After many hours of programming work, we were able to estimate that Kansas's flatness is approximately 0.9997. That degree of flatness might be described, mathematically, as "damn flat
."
 
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  • #32
tribdog said:
I was going to see where Phoenix ended up on the list, but couldn't figure out where the actual list was. Maybe that tells me we wouldn't be on the list anyway.

Maybe not, but Pheonix has about 5 Mary Coyle's ice cream parlors, don't they? That's better than making the "smartest cities" list.

Or, at least they did at one time. I used to make the ice cream at the original Mary Coyle's in Akron, OH. Bud Coyle and his wife, Mary, moved to Phoenix and sold the original store to a retired Army Colonel. Bud Coyle opened a new Mary Coyle's and had 5 of them in the mid to late 70's.

(Mary Coyle's history was one of the key parts of every employee's training, along with the correct answers to "Are you in my way?" and "Can I get a raise to at least minimum wage?" :biggrin:)

(Hint: The correct answers to the two questions were different from each other.)
 
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  • #33
I'm surprised Gainesville (alma mater's city) made the list. Granted the university is very large, anyone not connected to the university educationally lives in poverty. It has one of the highest homeless populations in the country (there are actually tent cities). The "have not" population is extremely visible here.
 
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