Which Course Offers Better Job Prospects: Physics or Engineering Physics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the comparison of job prospects between pursuing a degree in physics versus engineering physics, particularly in the context of working for organizations like CERN, ESA, and others. Participants explore factors influencing employability and the relevance of different educational paths in research and engineering fields.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about choosing between physics and engineering physics, highlighting a desire to work in research-oriented organizations.
  • Another participant notes that job markets are typically local and that employability depends on various factors, including GPA, experience, and the institution's reputation.
  • Some participants suggest that engineering may provide better access to organizations like CERN and ESA due to less competition compared to physics, despite lower pay for engineers in these roles.
  • There is a viewpoint that straight engineering degrees (e.g., Electrical or Mechanical) may be more advantageous than engineering physics, which may not fully commit to either field.
  • A participant shares their experience, indicating that an engineering physics background has been beneficial in their career as an experimentalist, particularly in Sweden, where such degrees are common.
  • Concerns are raised about the differences in job markets and educational paths between countries, particularly between Sweden and the US, suggesting that program specifics and course selection may be more critical than the degree title itself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the value of physics versus engineering physics, with some advocating for engineering paths while others emphasize the importance of specific programs and courses. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which path offers better job prospects.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge that the job market and educational opportunities can vary significantly by country, which may influence the applicability of their advice. There is also mention of the importance of specific courses taken within degree programs, indicating that not all engineering physics programs are equivalent.

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I am uncertain about what course to take, I was thinking about physics or Engineering physics. I wanted to work in an organization like cern, lux, esa, gsi (I know is really difficult), research also interests me a lot.
So, I would like to hear what you guys think about the courses in terms of employability and job prospects. Any help would be much appreciated.
 
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Job markets are usually local.

Marketability depends not only on the degree, but on the GPA, experience, and reputation of the institution at which it is earned.

I'd recommend visiting some local physics faculty and talking to them about it.
 
The back door into places like CERN, ESA, etc is engineering. This is because competition on the physics side is fierce, while competition on the engineering side is less because they pay their engineers significantly below market (but the engineers that work there get very interesting work in return).

Also, I would consider straight engineering (e.g. Electrical or Mechanical) over Engineering Physics which doesn't fully commit to physics or engineering.
 
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analogdesign said:
The back door into places like CERN, ESA, etc is engineering. This is because competition on the physics side is fierce, while competition on the engineering side is less because they pay their engineers significantly below market (but the engineers that work there get very interesting work in return).

Also, I would consider straight engineering (e.g. Electrical or Mechanical) over Engineering Physics which doesn't fully commit to physics or engineering.
Thanks for the advice
 
analogdesign said:
Also, I would consider straight engineering (e.g. Electrical or Mechanical) over Engineering Physics which doesn't fully commit to physics or engineering.

That very much depend on which country you live and the specific program. My undergraduate degree is in engineering physics and the fact that I took a few engineering courses has always been a great advantage to me (I am an experimentalist). In Sweden (and some other countries) it is not at all unusual for physicists to have an undergraduate degree in engineering physics; people who study "straight" physics tend to end up as teachers etc and not as researchers or even R&D.
I know that the situation is different in the US (assuming that is where the OP is from) but as far as I understand there are quite a few "physics oriented" Engineering physics programs in the US as well.
Hence, my only advice would be to look at a few different programs; which courses you take is more important than the name of the program.
 

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