Which expression yields the best approximation to df/dx (h 1)?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around which expression provides the best approximation for the derivative df/dx as h approaches zero. Participants explore various mathematical expressions and their equivalences, focusing on the implications of using different values of h.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that expressions A, B, and C are equivalent through simple substitution.
  • One participant initially supports expression B as the best approximation, while later shifting to A after further consideration.
  • Another participant argues that while A, B, and C yield the same result in the limit, B is preferable for fixed, small h.
  • Expression D is challenged as incorrect, with a suggestion that it requires division by 2 to align with B.
  • A question is raised about whether the same h is assumed across all expressions, indicating that knowledge about the function f may be necessary to determine a unique correct answer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the best approximation, with some agreeing on the equivalence of A, B, and C under certain conditions, while others maintain that B is superior for fixed h. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which expression is definitively the best approximation.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding assumptions about the continuity of the derivative and the specific behavior of the function f, which may influence the appropriateness of each expression.

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Some interesting calculus...

Which of the following expressions yields the best approximation to
df/dx (h<<1)?

A. [tex]\frac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}[/tex]

B. [tex]\frac{f(x+\frac{h}{2})-f(x-\frac{h}{2})}{h}[/tex]

C. [tex]\frac{f(x)-f(x-h)}{h}[/tex]

D. [tex]\frac{f(x+h)-f(x-h)}{h}[/tex]

From school days I have been taught A which is almost the same as C

I would like B to be the correct.What do other people think?
 
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You can use simple substitution to show that A, B and C are equivalent.
 
You are correct:

I will go for A now...

It looks that all A,B and C are equivalent.But definition of y' is to find the increment in y at x=x.Say,y changes to y+dy and x changes to x+dx.

My point is that to find df/dx at x,we must take increment f(x+h) from f(x)

Remember,by definition, df/dx is evaluated at x.
 
When going to the limit A,B,C give the same result (as long as the derivative is continuous at x). However if you want an approximation where h is fixed and small then B is the best approximation.

D is just wrong - you need to divide by 2 (then identical to B).
 
Are we supposed to assume that the same h is used in each expression? In that case there would be a unique right answer to the original question, but you would need to know something about f to say which it is...
 

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