Which forces does work as a car brakes?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the forces involved when a car brakes, specifically focusing on the work done by these forces. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics, particularly the roles of friction and normal forces in relation to motion.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the nature of work done by normal and frictional forces, questioning the common understanding that normal force does no work due to its perpendicular orientation to motion. There is also confusion regarding the distinction between static and kinetic friction in the context of braking.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning assumptions about the forces at play during braking. Some guidance has been offered regarding the role of kinetic friction, but there remains uncertainty about the definitions and implications of static versus kinetic friction.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of friction types and their effects on work done during braking, indicating a need for clarity on these fundamental concepts.

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Homework Statement


Which forces does work?
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Homework Equations


W=fdcos(theta)


The Attempt at a Solution


I always thought normal and friction does no work because it is perpendicular to motion. What gives?
 
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yes the normal force does no work

But the frictional force is opposing motion (anti-parallel to the motion), so it must do work to slow the mass down.
 
When a car brakes, isn't it in motion and using kinetic friction to stop, and not static friction?
Static friction causes rolling motion in wheels, but there is no rolling motion so it skids. So shouldn't kinetic friction do work and not static? I'm a bit confused on the two concept.
 
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When a car brakes, isn't it in motion and using kinetic friction to stop, and not static friction?
Static friction causes rolling motion in wheels, but there is no rolling motion so it skids. So shouldn't kinetic friction do work and not static? I'm a bit confused on the two concept.

Had the car been stationary, static friction would be acting, but the car in motion, so kinetic friction is doing work. There is relative motion between the wheels and the ground.
 

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