Which fuel is the largest polluter when ranked from 1 to 4?

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The discussion revolves around ranking different types of fuels—diesel, E85, gasoline, and gasoline with 20% ethanol—based on their pollution levels. Participants explore the complexities of fuel emissions and the factors that influence pollution output, including engine types and pollution-mitigation technologies.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that diesel is the largest polluter, ranking it as 1, but expresses confusion about the ranking of the other fuels.
  • Another participant argues that the question is nonsensical due to the variability in pollutants produced by different fuels and engines, emphasizing the need for specificity.
  • A different viewpoint highlights that the pollution levels depend on the usage context, such as the type of vehicle and the amounts of fuel used.
  • One participant agrees with the initial ranking of diesel as #1 and mentions the importance of considering the impact of ethanol on pollution levels, suggesting that the remaining fuels can be ranked based on their oxygenate content.
  • There is a reference to historical beliefs about fuel pollution, indicating that opinions on pollution levels may have evolved over time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the ranking of the fuels, with multiple competing views on how to assess pollution levels and the factors that influence them.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the question lacks specificity regarding the conditions under which the fuels are used, which affects the pollution output. There are also references to external sources that may provide additional context but do not resolve the discussion.

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The problem asks me to rank from largest polluter to lowest (1 being highest and 4 being lowest.) There are diesel, E85, Gasoline, Gasoline with 20% ethanol.


I know diesel will be 1 but then I am kinda confused on which one pollutes more can anyone help me?
 
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This is a nonsense question. Each kind of fuel generates different kinds and amounts of pollutants. Furthermore, each kind of engine can be equipped with a wide variety of pollution-mitigation devices. You'd have to be much more specific about what you mean.

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It depends if they are used in equal amounts, with the same vehicle. You can't really claim that one is a higher polluter than the other as it depends so greatly on how they are used, and what they are used for! Where was this question by the way?
 
pyroknife said:
The problem asks me to rank from largest polluter to lowest (1 being highest and 4 being lowest.) There are diesel, E85, Gasoline, Gasoline with 20% ethanol.


I know diesel will be 1 but then I am kinda confused on which one pollutes more can anyone help me?

You are right about diesel being #1. http://www.ucsusa.org/publications/catalyst/sp04-catalyst-diesel-or-gasoline-fuel-for-thought.html

For the others, you have to consider the effect of the oxygenate (ethanol) on the pollution produced. You can easily rank the remaining fuels based on the oxygenate content. It was once thought that http://sd.water.usgs.gov/nawqa/vocns/mtbe/bib/" but you could argue they produce more pollution and be correct as well. You need to document your answer carefully.
 
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