Which is the best conductor? Silver or gold? Why?

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The discussion centers on the comparison of silver and gold as electrical conductors, exploring their conductivity, reactivity, and practical applications. Participants examine the properties of these metals in both ideal and practical environments, as well as alternative materials like plasma.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference the electrochemical series, suggesting that gold is considered the best conductor, while others assert that silver is superior based on conductivity tables.
  • One participant proposes that gold's reputation may stem from its resistance to corrosion, making it more reliable in practical applications despite silver's higher conductivity.
  • Another participant notes that while silver has the least resistance, it tarnishes, which can create surface resistance, particularly problematic in high-frequency applications.
  • Gold is suggested to be superior in environments where reactivity is a concern, as it remains shiny and conductive over time.
  • One participant distinguishes between "best" and "highest" conducting materials, arguing that gold is better in practical applications due to its stability across varying temperatures and conditions.
  • Some participants introduce plasma as a conductor, discussing its conductivity under specific conditions and comparing it to silver and superconductors.
  • Concerns about the malleability and hardness of gold are raised, highlighting its usability in applications where other conductors may fail.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the superiority of silver versus gold as conductors, with no consensus reached. The discussion includes multiple competing perspectives on the properties and applications of these metals, as well as the introduction of plasma as an alternative conductor.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various conductivity values and practical considerations without resolving the underlying assumptions or definitions of "best" versus "highest" conductivity. The discussion also touches on the environmental sensitivity of silver and copper compared to gold.

yuganes warman
According to electrochemical series ,gold is the last element thus it is depicted that it is the best electrical conductor.(most of the teachers say that) But according to the internet the best electrical conductor is silver , following copper and gold. Which one is true and why ?
 
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Hi y w. http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

That is a good question. Tables show Ag and Cu exceeding Au in both electrical and thermal conductivities.

I'm wondering whether gold enjoys a better reputation because Ag and Cu will both carry surface corrosion products after prolonged exposure to the atmosphere, and this can degrade their performance in lots of practical applications, whereas Au retains its clean shiny surface because it is significantly more unreactive. This means that gold may be the better choice in the long run, depending on the application.

You would not be the first to ask this question, and I'm sure that there is a good answer somewhere.
 
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yuganes warman said:
According to electrochemical series ,gold is the last element thus it is depicted that it is the best electrical conductor.(most of the teachers say that)
Can you get them to put that in writing? That strikes me as very wrong.

THE ELECTROCHEMICAL SERIES
This page explains the origin of the electrochemical series, and shows how it can be used to work out the ability of the various substances included in it to act as oxidising or reducing agents.

That sounds more like chemistry, than something to do with conductivity.

But according to the internet the best electrical conductor is silver , following copper and gold. Which one is true and why ?

According to this website:

Conductivity Of Metals Sorted By Resistivity Conductivity {I've abbreviated the list, btw}
Code:
COND.
SIEMENS/m     MATERIAL
----------------------------
6.287E+07     Silver, Pure
5.800E+07     Copper, Pure
4.060E+07     Gold, Pure
3.538E+07     Aluminum, Pure

The internet is correct.

As to why one metal is a better conductor than another, probably has to do with the "Conduction band" characteristics of the atoms, of which, I have no knowledge.
Sorry!
 
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Thanks a lot.
 
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Hi y w. http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

That is a good question. Tables show Ag and Cu exceeding Au in both electrical and thermal conductivities.

I'm wondering whether gold enjoys a better reputation because Ag and Cu will both carry surface corrosion products after prolonged exposure to the atmosphere, and this can degrade their performance in lots of practical applications, whereas Au retains its clean shiny surface because it is significantly more unreactive. This means that gold may be the better choice in the long run, depending on the application.

You would not be the first to ask this question, and I'm sure that there is a good answer somewhere.

This is why sometimes, electrical plugs or contacts will be gold plated. It's pretty much never worth the money to make a conductor entirely out of gold, but a gold plated connector can be nice for the corrosion-resistant properties.
 
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Gold is superior in applications where reactivity is a concern. Silver, and copper to a lesser extent, are environmentally sensitive.
 
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Silver has the least resistance and is therefore the most conductive, but it will tarnish. Tarnish creates surface resistance which is particularly problematic in applications where "skin effect" is important such as with higher frequencies. Gold is also very conductive but more importantly, it is the least reactive element meaning it will remain shiny and therefore more conductive for the longest amount of time.
 
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Two words are used for conducting properties of a method. one is "best" conducting material and other is "highest" conducting material. First is used in the practical environment and other is used in ideal environment. Gold has superior stability in terms of electrical or thermal conduction at low to high temperature range and harsh environmental conditions. Silver losses its characteristics when temperature varies from 20 to 100 degree centigrade. This is why, gold is best conducting material in practical and silver is highest conducting material at ideal.
 
Plasma is the best.:-p
 
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Khashishi said:
Plasma is the best.:-p
best 'material' ??
Do you have any figures for conductivity/resistivity of 'plasma'
 
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Plasma conductivity depends on various parameters. This model will do for now: http://silas.psfc.mit.edu/introplasma/chap3.html#tth_sEc3.5.2
##\eta=5.2\times 10^{-5} \frac{\ln \Lambda}{(T_e/eV)^{3/2}}## Ωm
For example, let ##Z=1##, ##\ln \Lambda = 16##, ##kT = 1000 eV## (about 11.6 million kelvin)
I got a resistivity of 2.6E-8 ohm-m. Which happens to be actually higher than silver (1.59E-8 ohm-m).
But if we up the temperature to 10000eV, we get about 8.32E-10 ohm-m, which is quite a bit lower.

Oops, superconductors beat plasmas pretty handily.
 
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Interesting conversation!

I always believed that Au made the best connector since it inert and is very conductive, but not so in all cases. High contact pressure sealed connectors using Ag are excellent, but not necessarily practical.

An item I did not see here is importance of the malleability and hardness of Au. This detail makes it usable where most other conductors just will not work.

Cheers!
 

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