Which operator for reflection in quantum mechanics?

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The discussion revolves around the formulation of reflection operators in quantum mechanics, particularly focusing on how to express a reflection operator that switches the y-coordinate to -y. Participants explore the relationship between reflection, parity operators, and rotation operators, considering their implications for systems such as spin-3/2 particles.

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  • One participant inquires about the possibility of expressing a reflection operator as a composition of rotations and/or parity operators, specifically questioning if a reflection operator can be derived from known operators.
  • Another participant suggests that any reflection can be expressed as a product of a rotation and another reflection, referencing the relationship between the rotation group and the orthogonal group.
  • There is uncertainty regarding whether the parity operator acts on spin-1/2 states and how it can be incorporated into the formulation of a reflection operator for a spin-3/2 particle.
  • A participant proposes a specific formulation for the reflection operator involving the parity operator and rotation operators, while expressing doubt about the validity of their assumptions.
  • Further discussion reveals that some participants believe the parity operator can be used as a reflection operator, while others question its applicability to certain spin states.

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Participants express differing views on the formulation of reflection operators, with some supporting the use of parity operators while others remain uncertain about their effectiveness in specific contexts. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the best approach to defining the reflection operator.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the action of the parity operator on spin states and the implications of using rotation operators in conjunction with reflections. The discussion also highlights the complexity of combining different types of operators in quantum mechanics.

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Hello,

I know we have the parity operator for inversion in quantum mechanics and for rotations we have the exponentials of the angular momentum/spin operators. But what if I want to write the operator that represent a reflection for example just switching y to -y, the matrix in real space being:

$$\begin{pmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0\\
0 & -1 & 0\\
0 & 0 & 1
\end{pmatrix}=
\begin{pmatrix}
-1 & 0 & 0\\
0 & -1 & 0\\
0 & 0 & -1
\end{pmatrix}
\begin{pmatrix}
-1 & 0 & 0\\
0 & 1 & 0\\
0 & 0 & -1
\end{pmatrix}
$$ ?

Is it possible to write it as a composition of rotations and/or parity operators? Or is there already an operator for this kind of transformation like partial parity... ? I could not find it on the internet or book chapters.

Thank you for any hints about that.
 
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In case it is unclear, I will take an example that is of interest to me. I wanted to ask if I can write an operator for reflection along y as:
$$\Pi e^{-\frac{i}{\hbar}\hat{L}_{y}\pi}\otimes e^{-\frac{i}{\hbar}\hat{S}_{y}\pi} = \Pi e^{-\frac{i}{\hbar}\hat{J}_{y}\pi}$$
when I want to perform a reflecion on a spin 3/2 particle and $$\Pi$$ is the parity operator while L acts on angular momentum for l=1 and S on spin 1/2 while J is the operator when I add them.

And I know that we have:
$$\Pi |l,m\rangle = (-1)^{l}|l,m\rangle$$

but I do not know if this operator acts in a simple way on spin 1/2 states. I believe also it should commute wih the rotation operators. Sorry that was actually two questions into one but if my assumptions that I can use the parity operator to represent a reflection is wrong, this second question was not really necessary...
 
One can write any reflection ##R## as a product of the rotation ##Q=RR_0^{-1}## and another given reflection ##R_0##, since the rotation group ##SO(3)## has index 2 in the full orthogonal group ##O(3)## generated by rotations and reflections.
 
Thank you for your answer but I am not sure to understand. You are saying I could write my reflection as $$R=QR_{0},$$ but it implies writing another reflection while my question is about how to write such a reflection, either directly or as a composition of other operators which are not reflections. Or did you mean something else?
 
Amentia said:
Thank you for your answer but I am not sure to understand. You are saying I could write my reflection as $$R=QR_{0},$$ but it implies writing another reflection while my question is about how to write such a reflection, either directly or as a composition of other operators which are not reflections. Or did you mean something else?
You can take the parity as the reflection ##R_0##.
 
Ok, so assuming the parity does not act on spin 1/2, I assume my first equation is correct? I could say, calling ##R_{y}## my reflection operator:

$$R_{y}|\frac{3}{2},\frac{3}{2}\rangle = e^{-\frac{i}{\hbar}\hat{J}_{y}\pi}\Pi|\frac{3}{2},\frac{3}{2}\rangle \\

R_{y}|\frac{3}{2},\frac{3}{2}\rangle = e^{-\frac{i}{\hbar}\hat{L}_{y}\pi}\Pi\otimes e^{-\frac{i}{\hbar}\hat{S}_{y}\pi} |1,1\rangle\otimes|\frac{1}{2},\frac{1}{2}\rangle \\
R_{y}|\frac{3}{2},\frac{3}{2}\rangle = e^{-\frac{i}{\hbar}\hat{L}_{y}\pi}\Pi|1,1\rangle\otimes e^{-\frac{i}{\hbar}\hat{S}_{y}\pi}|\frac{1}{2},\frac{1}{2}\rangle \\
R_{y}|\frac{3}{2},\frac{3}{2}\rangle = -e^{-\frac{i}{\hbar}\hat{L}_{y}\pi}|1,1\rangle\otimes e^{-\frac{i}{\hbar}\hat{S}_{y}\pi}|\frac{1}{2},\frac{1}{2}\rangle
$$

And then just proceed by developping the rotation operator with the Pauli matrices and matrices for angular momentum equal to 1?
 
I didn't have time to look closely at your example. I only answered to your post #1. My statement holds for any dimension, though, also for tensor products.
 
All right, so it should work for me, thank you again!
 

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