Which Optics Textbook is Best for Intermediate-Level Courses: Hecht or Fowles?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the suitability of optics textbooks for intermediate-level courses, specifically comparing Hecht's book and Fowles' book. Participants express their opinions on the rigor, clarity, and pedagogical approach of these texts, as well as alternative recommendations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express strong dissatisfaction with Hecht's book, citing a lack of rigor and clarity in its derivations.
  • Others share a preference for Fowles' book, suggesting it may be more organized and easier to understand.
  • One participant humorously notes that the problems in Hecht's book are too numerous and severe to be solved by switching to Fowles.
  • Another participant mentions that Born and Wolf's "Principles of Optics" is a valuable reference for advanced topics, although it may not be suitable for beginners.
  • Alternative textbooks such as "The Light Fantastic" and "Pedrotti and Pedrotti's Introduction to Optics" are suggested, with varying opinions on their effectiveness and clarity.
  • Some participants note that there is no clear consensus on a preferred textbook for intermediate optics courses, contrasting it with more established texts in other subjects like Griffiths for E&M.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the merits of Hecht's book, with some finding it inadequate while others have a more favorable view. There is no consensus on a single best textbook for intermediate optics, as various alternatives are proposed and debated.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the varying backgrounds of students and the importance of pedagogical approaches in selecting a textbook, indicating that different texts may suit different teaching styles and student needs.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and educators in optics looking for recommendations on textbooks suitable for intermediate-level courses, as well as those interested in the pedagogical challenges associated with teaching optics.

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I'm reading Hecht's book on optics and am absolutely hating it. The derivations are not rigorous and have many, many holes. They use unnecessary presentations (no div-grad-curl presentation of M's equations and instead writing out each of the 100 derivatives involved explicitly). Horrible book. I think I'm hating it with such a passion because I've already taken upper-level EM courses and this book seems to be for people who don't have that background.

But this is the book that is recommended for my course... I've seen Fowles' book (Introduction to modern optics) recommended as well and it seems a lot more neat, according to what I've read.

So I was wondering : Could I solve all the problems in Hecht's book by reading Fowler instead? Do you recommend Fowler? Am I sacrificing anything if I read Fowles?

Edit: It's Fowles not Fowler, sorry. https://www.amazon.com/dp/0486659577/?tag=pfamazon01-20
 
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davidbenari said:
Horrible book.
I love you (in a purely Platonic way) for saying this. Hecht's was the only book I ever threw against the wall of my room. It stands for everything that I hate about physics. (Generally, I like physics quite a bit.)
davidbenari said:
Could I solve all the problems in Hecht's book by reading Fowler instead?
No, the problems in Hecht's book are simply too grave and too many.
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Am I sacrificing anything if I read Fowler?
You are sacrificing your mental sanity if you stick with Hecht.
 
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LOL

Krylov said:
simply too grave
What do you mean by grave here though? Too complicated?
 
davidbenari said:
What do you mean by grave here though? Too complicated?
No, it was a silly joke. I was talking about the problems with the book itself, not the exercises. I have seen Fowles' book when it was my turn to take optics and believe I have browsed through it, but I have not studied from it myself, so I regret that I cannot give you my opinion. It is very likely better than Hecht, though.
 
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I browsed through some of my old papers and did find a lot of references to a classical book by Born and Wolf, Principles of Optics. Apparently, it was very much appreciated by a certain theoretician in my department for its systematic discussion of more advanced topics and we received some excerpts from it during his course. (Note: This was not the introductory optics course, but a subsequent elective.) Perhaps you know it already? Specially since you are already familiar with upper level E&M, you might enjoy it as a companion to Fowles.
 
Thanks, I'll check it out.
 
Geez, Born and Wolf is not a text to study optics for the first time! It's the ultimate reference in the field, but not a book for a course.
The OP might like

The Light Fantastic (nice balance, IMO)
Pedrotti and Pedrotti's Introduction to Optics (elementary and in mostly self contained chapters)
Guenther's Modern Optics (not the clearest I've read, but it's deeper than Pedrotti's)

Fowler is an artist of synthesis, and I like his book a lot (I bought his other book on Analytical Mech for this reason), but it's far from comprehensive.
 
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SredniVashtar said:
Pedrotti and Pedrotti's Introduction to Optics
Actually, Pedrotti, Pedrotti and Pedrotti. I call it Pedrotti3 for short. :-p I used it for several years when I taught an intermediate-level optics course. Even with that book there were derivations and discussions that I didn't care for. There doesn't seem to be a real consensus favorite textbook at that level, unlike e.g. Griffiths for E&M.

I rather liked Hecht myself, but more for personal supplementary reading. I never tried to teach from it, because our optics course didn't assume intermediate E&M as a prerequisite. It simply would not have worked with our students to jump right into Maxwell's equations and wave equations right at the beginning. I preferred a more gradual approach with geometrical optics first, then wave optics.
 
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