Which Proof Should I Use for Binary Relations and Proofs Homework?

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The discussion revolves around selecting an appropriate proof technique for a problem related to binary relations and injective functions. Participants explore various proof methods, particularly proof by contradiction and contrapositive reasoning.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the applicability of proof by contradiction and the definition of injective functions. Questions arise regarding the logical expressions involved and the interpretation of terms like "right hand side."

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Some participants have offered guidance on using proof by contradiction and have prompted others to clarify their understanding of logical expressions. The conversation reflects a mix of attempts and clarifications, with one participant indicating they have reached a resolution in their understanding.

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There is a mention of confusion regarding the logical structure of proofs and the specific definitions being used, indicating potential gaps in foundational knowledge that are being addressed through discussion.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I know what the question means and all, and I know a lot of different proofs. But I really don't know which proof to use for this question. I tried starting up a proof, but I don't exactly know how. Would a proof by contradiction work for a)?
 
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Panphobia said:

Homework Statement


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The Attempt at a Solution


I know what the question means and all, and I know a lot of different proofs. But I really don't know which proof to use for this question. I tried starting up a proof, but I don't exactly know how. Would a proof by contradiction work for a)?

Yes, contradiction would work fine. Try it. Though it looks a lot like the definition of injective to me. What's your definition of 'injective'?
 
a function is injective iff its inverse is a function
 
Panphobia said:
a function is injective iff its inverse is a function

Ok, then use that definition to construct a proof by contradiction. What's the negation of the right hand side?
 
What do you mean by right hand side, by the way, I get proof by contradiction, but I don't understand the logical expression, like if you were to prove A->B then the contradiction would be ~A->(~B^B), How does that apply here?
 
Panphobia said:
What do you mean by right hand side, by the way, I get proof by contradiction, but I don't understand the logical expression, like if you were to prove A->B then the contradiction would be ~A->(~B^B), How does that apply here?

Um, think I'm using the wrong word here again. I mean proof by the contrapositive. You can prove A->B by proving ~B->~A. The right hand side is B, i.e. the for all (x1,x2) part.
 
so There exists (x1,x2) in A^2 (f(x1) = f(x2)) ^ (x1 != x2)) -> f is not injective
I am not sure about this part " in A^2" is it not in A^2 or in A^2
 
nevermind, I think I proved it, I get what to do now.
 

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