MHB Which Real Numbers Intersect This Curve at Four Distinct Points?

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The discussion focuses on identifying real numbers \( c \) that allow a straight line to intersect the curve defined by the equation \( y = x^4 + 9x^3 + cx^2 + 9x + 4 \) at four distinct points. Participants are encouraged to share their solutions and reasoning. One user confirms another's answer as correct, indicating a collaborative problem-solving approach. The conversation highlights the mathematical exploration of polynomial intersections with linear functions. The goal is to determine the specific conditions for these intersections to occur.
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Find the real numbers $c$ for which there is a straight line that intersects the curve $y=x^4+9x^3+cx^2+9x+4$ at four distinct points?
 
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My solution:

If we look at the concavity of the function, we see that we require the second derivative of the function to have two real, distinct roots:

$$f''(x)=12x^2+54x+2c$$

Requiring the discriminant to be positive gives us:

$$54^2-4(12)(2c)>0$$

$$c<\frac{243}{8}$$
 
Hi MarkFL,

Thanks for participating and your answer is correct!(Clapping)
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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