Which substances in this equation are acid and base?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying acids and bases in a chemical equation, specifically focusing on the roles of different substances in proton donation and acceptance. Participants seek clarification on their markings and reasoning regarding the acid-base classification of the substances involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant identifies HNO3 as an acid because it donates a proton, while CH3NH2 is considered a base for accepting a proton.
  • Another participant questions the roles of other materials in the equation and seeks help in identifying them as acids or bases.
  • A participant provides a reformulation of the equation to clarify the roles of the species involved.
  • There is a discussion about the proton donation by NO3-, with one participant expressing uncertainty about its ability to donate a proton due to its negative charge.
  • Another participant confirms that the markings in the image are correct but notes that NO3- does not have a proton to donate in the given structure.
  • One participant concludes that CH3N(+)H3 acts as the acid and NO3- as the base in the reversed equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the roles of certain substances as acids or bases, particularly regarding NO3-. While some agree on the identification of CH3N(+)H3 as an acid, there remains uncertainty about the proton donation capabilities of NO3-.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the need for clarity in identifying proton donors and acceptors, which may depend on the specific context of the chemical reaction. The discussion highlights the complexity of acid-base interactions and the importance of structural considerations.

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This discussion may be useful for students and individuals interested in chemistry, particularly those studying acid-base reactions and seeking to understand the principles of proton transfer in chemical equations.

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i need to mark all the Base and Acid in the Equation (in the picture) and tell why i think i choose Them to be acid and base

i mark the Acid in red line and the Base in blue line, tell me if i Right.

my Explanation is HNO is Acid and it give proton While CH3NH2 is base and it gain in the proton but about the other Materials in the Equation i am not sure who is base and who is acid and i need your help here.


thanks.
 

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omni said:
i need to mark all the Base and Acid in the Equation (in the picture) and tell why i think i choose Them to be acid and base

i mark the Acid in red line and the Base in blue line, tell me if i Right.

my Explanation is HNO is Acid and it give proton While CH3NH2 is base and it gain in the proton but about the other Materials in the Equation i am not sure who is base and who is acid and i need your help here.


thanks.

If all the picture is, is 1 equation, can you consider typing it out to help the search function here?

Anyway, on the right hand side of the equation, which species is donating a proton, and which is accepting it?
 
sure i can typing it here but if i will do it is will be really Unclear.

CH3+HNO3<---->NO-3+CH3NH+3for your answer:NO3 is donating proton and CH3NH is accepting proton yes?
 
omni said:
sure i can typing it here but if i will do it is will be really Unclear.

Have a look at the formatting options above where you type, so you can write this out as

CH3NH2 + HNO3 <-> CH3N(+)H3 + NO3-


omni said:
for your answer:NO3 is donating proton and CH3NH is accepting proton yes?

Not quite, where is the proton for NO3- to donate?
 
ok thanks for let me know about the formatting options.


well tell me if i Right in the way that i mark the Materials on the Left side.


"Not quite, where is the proton for NO3- to donate? "


well so i don't really know. what is the way to know if Material donate or accept proton?

I thought NO3- donate proton Because the (-) i know proton is Positive and if some Material will donate proton he will become more Negative.

thanks
 
Yes, the red and blue in your image are right. There is no proton (or H+) for NO3- to donate within this structure.

If we write the equilibrium the other way around, as CH3N(+)H3 + NO3- <-> CH3NH2 + HNO3, which species on the left hand side has protons.

Of course this will not always work, but is good enough for this example
 
so in the left side CH3N(+)H3 is the acid and NO3- is the base?

thanks
 
omni said:
so in the left side CH3N(+)H3 is the acid and NO3- is the base?

thanks

Methylammonium is the acid on the left-hand side of the reversed equation, yes.
 
thank you very much.
 

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