Which to take? (Need a decision on a math course)

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The discussion revolves around the decision of whether to take a course in probability and statistics or college algebra with modeling, particularly in the context of pursuing an Electrical Engineering (EE) degree. Participants explore the relevance and importance of each course to their academic and professional goals.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to take probability and statistics but questions its relevance to an EE degree and whether skipping college algebra is advisable.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of college algebra, noting that a strong foundation in algebra is crucial for success in calculus, which is heavily reliant on algebraic concepts.
  • A third participant mentions that probability and statistics are useful in EE, particularly in areas like controls and signals processing, but suggests that this is more relevant at the graduate level.
  • Another contributor suggests that the "with modeling" aspect likely involves applied problems and real-world data usage, potentially incorporating programming languages like MATLAB or Fortran.
  • One participant strongly advocates for taking college algebra, asserting that it is essential for an EE degree and that probability and statistics may not be necessary for the undergraduate program.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the necessity of college algebra versus probability and statistics, with some advocating for the former as foundational, while others see value in the latter for specific applications in EE.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of confidence in their understanding of algebra and its applications, indicating that individual preparedness may influence course selection. There is also uncertainty about the specific content and teaching methods of the courses in question.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering course selections in mathematics, particularly those pursuing degrees in engineering or related fields, may find this discussion relevant.

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For my current set of classes I'm going to be able to take either probability and statistics or college algebra with modeling (could someone explain modeling?) I've always wanted to take prob/statistics but don't want to jump in and miss something important, and also, are prob and statistics even relevant to an EE degree? Could I skip college algebra and go to the real stuff?
 
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I'm in calculus right now, and personally, I would not have wanted to skip College Algebra. There's a lot more algebra involved in Calculus than some people realize at first. Things like finding derivatives and limits basically turn into a huge mess of algebra at times, and without a rigorous understanding of the algebra behind it, it can get complicated. Professors will always treat Calculus in different ways, but a solid understanding of trig functions and trig identities is pretty important too. My professor loves trig, and uses a lot of it in his Calculus lectures and exams.

I learned a lot in College Algebra. It tends to be a lot more in depth than previous algebra classes were. You usually get a pretty rigorous treatment of both conic sections and logarithms, do a decent amount of work with sequences/series, cover a lot of concepts like minima/maxima that become crucial in calculus, amongst many other topics.

The modeling part most likely refers to applications of the the topics. Things like using exponential/logarithmic functions in biology for modeling population growth/decline, modeling bacteria reproduction rates...other things like how to use conic sections in their countless applications.
 
Probability and Stats are useful in EE but only if you go far enough and focus on controls and signals processing and perhaps end up in graduate school focusing on the stuff.
 
I believe the “with modeling” part means there will be more applied problems/real world usage/data involved. They may or may not use a programming language like matlab/Fortran depending on the class and who is teaching it.

You should see if the professor has a website with any further information, maybe even a class syllabus online.

If you're shaky in algebra I would take college algebra. It is basically all the "real stuff" you'll use as an engineer once you're employed and have nice programs that do all the heavy lifting for you. : P

I only kid about the last part, but you can't do anything algebra. That class will likely touch on stats/probability anyway. Or if you're torn, do them both.
 
College algebra, by far, for EE. You will have to learn that no matter what. You can probably get an EE degree without taking probability and statistics (not that I'm advocating that).
 

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