Which wave function and operator is responsible for the Double Slit Experiment?

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The discussion revolves around the wave function and operator involved in the double slit experiment within the framework of quantum mechanics. Participants explore how these concepts explain the observed phenomena, including the implications of wave-particle duality and the measurement process.

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  • One participant questions which specific wave function and operator are responsible for the results of the double slit experiment, expressing uncertainty about the application of quantum mechanics to this classical experiment.
  • Another participant references a paper that suggests the particle is in a superposition of two momentum eigenstates after passing through the slit, but acknowledges that this explanation may be overly simplistic.
  • Concerns are raised about discrepancies between theoretical predictions and experimental results, particularly regarding the presence of photons in areas where theory predicts zero probability, suggesting potential influences of noise or non-ideal conditions.
  • A participant speculates that the presence of "which-path" information may affect the interference pattern, indicating that the relationship between measurement and interference is not binary.

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Participants express uncertainty and explore different viewpoints regarding the wave function and operator in the double slit experiment. There is no consensus on the specific model or explanation that best accounts for the observed phenomena.

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Participants note limitations in their understanding and the complexity of the quantum mechanics involved, including the potential for noise and the influence of measurement conditions on the results.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying quantum mechanics, particularly in relation to foundational experiments like the double slit experiment and the implications of wave-particle duality.

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I know this may be a completely stupid question and it's so fundamental but... As we all know the first thing we learn is basically the duality between waves and particles (e.g electron). This is shown via the double slit experiment.

Now I know how to explain it if it were water waves, and using Huygen's equations, etc. But in quantum mechanics we have a wave function \psi and an operator A, and using Schroedinger's equation we obtain the eigenvalues and THAT is what the result should be.

So how does one explain the results of the double slit experiment using that model? Which operator specifically (and what wave function) is in play? Thanks for helping me! I hope this question makes sense.
 
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Just wondering if anyone knows..?
 
There's a nice paper on arXiv that explains exactly this question. I'll try to find it (I don't know why I don't have a perma-link somewhere, since I searched many years for such a paper myself :))

(FWIW, I recall it simply claiming that the particle was in a superposition of two momentum eigenstates after the slit, and that the screen was measuring position... but that sounds too simplistic.)

[Edit: found it http://arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/0703126]
 
Talisman said:
There's a nice paper on arXiv that explains exactly this question. I'll try to find it (I don't know why I don't have a perma-link somewhere, since I searched many years for such a paper myself :))

(FWIW, I recall it simply claiming that the particle was in a superposition of two momentum eigenstates after the slit, and that the screen was measuring position... but that sounds too simplistic.)

[Edit: found it http://arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/0703126]

Wow. Thanks so much, I really appreciate it!

PS: This may be another simple question but looking the paper it predicts (obviously) that there's zero probability of a particle being on the dips of the wave. However, whenever one looks at images of this experiment done with Photons (for ex.) there's always a few little dots where the theory predicts there should be None. Why is this? Noise? Lack of ideal conditions? If so, is there a way to alter the wave function or our predictions so that it correctly predicts the amount of photons that will appear in the 'dips'? Thanks again!
 
curtdbz said:
Wow. Thanks so much, I really appreciate it!

PS: This may be another simple question but looking the paper it predicts (obviously) that there's zero probability of a particle being on the dips of the wave. However, whenever one looks at images of this experiment done with Photons (for ex.) there's always a few little dots where the theory predicts there should be None. Why is this? Noise? Lack of ideal conditions? If so, is there a way to alter the wave function or our predictions so that it correctly predicts the amount of photons that will appear in the 'dips'? Thanks again!

I must admit I understand this stuff very little myself, but from what I do understand: the basic idea is lack of ideal conditions. The more "which-path" information the apparatus gathers, the less interference is exhibited. This is not an all-or-nothing, and there may be some recoverable correlations in the system.

But alas, it is best if you wait for an answer from a more authoritative source than me :smile:
 

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