Who is the artist behind this famous forgery?

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The discussion revolves around identifying a famous forgery and its artist, as well as exploring various artworks and exhibitions seen by participants in a museum. The conversation includes elements of art history, scientific imaging, and personal experiences related to the artworks.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the museum where the exhibition took place, with suggestions including the Rijksmuseum and Boijmans Van Beuningen.
  • There is a claim that the painting in question is a forgery by Van Meegeren, specifically "Supper at Emmaus."
  • Participants discuss the identity of the artist of another painting, with suggestions including Pollock and Kandinsky, though there is disagreement about the correct answer.
  • There are various hypotheses about the scientific images presented, with some participants suggesting they depict atomic force microscopy images or polished metal surfaces.
  • One participant mentions the use of food in the exhibition, speculating it might be chocolate pudding or fudge, while another clarifies it is edible but intended for bird food after the exhibition.
  • Participants share links and references to further identify the painting and its context, including a mention of a Google search and a specific URL for identification.

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Participants generally do not reach consensus on several points, including the identity of the artist of the painting and the nature of the scientific images. Multiple competing views remain throughout the discussion.

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Some claims are based on personal recollections and interpretations, which may not be verifiable. The discussion includes references to external sources and URLs for further exploration, but these do not resolve the uncertainties present in the conversation.

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This is a quiz, who can answer the most questions?

Went to a museum today (1- which one?), which featured an exhibition of scientific photographs. Anyway they were projected on the walls like this:

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And there were no detailed elaborations on them, only a headline for sort of pictures, so that was a bit disappointing.
(those could be questions 2-3-4, what izzit, I don’t know)

Anyway there was more to see, this painting for instance,

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Now when I saw that, the idea of having it seen before was very strong, a lot stronger than when I saw it posted here in PF somewhere (5 - where?); but then I realized that it must have been because I may have seen it on my first visit to that museum some decades ago.

This painting is one of the most famous forgeries ever. (6 - who and what?)

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7 - Who painted this?
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This was an interesting exhibition, 8 -what is covering the floor here?

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The corner more in detail:

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This is in the garden of the museum:

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Another interesting exhibition, with a very interesting back ground lighting:

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edit, one more:

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This was shot in the dark there with ISO 6400 (flash and tripod were not allowed there)

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9- Any idea who made that exhibition?
 
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1 - Rijks? Or Boijmans?

4 - It's either an STM or AFM image of the surface of some material patterned with a chain of atoms (possibly of some other element).

6 - Van Meegeren's fake Vermeer (Supper at Emmaus)

7 - Pollock?

Edit: From the balls, I see that Boijmans is the correct answer for #1.
 
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8) Chocolate pudding??
 
micromass said:
8) Chocolate pudding??
I was going to guess fudge! It must be lunchtime.
 
1: Right, the Museum is Boymans Van Beuningen in Rotterdam


6: Indeed Van Meegeren the Emmausgangers

7: Not Pollock, it's a Russian painter

8: Not chocolate / fudge but edible still. It has been subject of some discussion, how to misuse food. As a compromise, it was decided that it will be used to make bird food after the exhibition
 
Andre said:
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Kandinsky?
 
Borek said:
Kandinsky?
<face palm>
 
2) the middle one is some sort of crystal, the one on the right is definitely liquid crystals. Those are images taken between crossed polarizers (or the equivalent in reflection illumination).
3)I'm guessing both of those are polished metal surfaces (iron? steel?). If they haven't been colorized, then they are reflection DIC images.
4) that is an atomic force microscopy (AFM) image- probably a surface profile (some polymer, perhaps DNA)
 
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Thanks Andy, as suggested I have no info about them.

So we have still open

4 - Where in PF is this painting?

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7 - What is this on the floor.

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9 - which exhibition?

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Anyway, this should take care of the floor:

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Needless to say that the odor in that room was very strong

Also, it has not gone unnoticed by the public as can be seen in this google search.

see also this

Also an hint, the curious mirror painting was posted by Lisab.
 
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Not too many terriers around it seems, deterimed to solve these issues.

4. Where is this painting in PF?
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If I copy the url of that painting in tineye.com I get a mere http://www.tineye.com/search/82d35e990b9637d072fa19c6db239d364fa004cd/, which should allow identification: Not to be reproduced from Rene Magritte.

This gives a multitude of possible clues, and the rght one is
This painting was commissioned by poet and Magritte patron Edward James and is considered a portrait of James

Frequent visitors of the landmark game know that Lisa has posted there sometimes, so trying a search with that in the landmark thread finds https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=2678657&highlight=edward+james#post2678657 . So you scroll up a bit to find this post:

lisab said:
Hint:

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Question to one man: How often have you seen such beauty?
Answer: Seldom.

9 - The exposition can simply be found by going to the http://www.boijmans.nl/en/7/calendar-exhibitions: which finds http://www.boijmans.nl/en/7/calendar-exhibitions/calendaritem/716/nathalie-djurberg-and-hans-berg-music.
 
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Andre said:
Not too many terriers around it seems, deterimed to solve these issues.

4. Where is this painting in PF?
qytqj6.jpg


If I copy the url of that painting in tineye.com I get a mere http://www.tineye.com/search/82d35e990b9637d072fa19c6db239d364fa004cd/, which should allow identification: Not to be reproduced from Rene Magritte.

This gives a multitude of possible clues, and the rght one is


Frequent visitors of the landmark game know that Lisa has posted there sometimes, so trying a search with that in the landmark thread finds https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=2678657&highlight=edward+james#post2678657 . So you scroll up a bit to find this post:



9 - The exposition can simply be found by going to the http://www.boijmans.nl/en/7/calendar-exhibitions: which finds http://www.boijmans.nl/en/7/calendar-exhibitions/calendaritem/716/nathalie-djurberg-and-hans-berg-music.

:smile: I searched the landmark game thread, I knew the painting but couldn't think of the artist...I just couldn't get the proper keyword :redface:!
 
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