Who is the Best Living Physicist?

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The discussion centers around opinions on prominent physicists, particularly Freeman Dyson and Steven Weinberg. Participants express admiration for Dyson's contributions to physics, although some criticize his views on religion and global warming, suggesting he downplays the severity of climate issues. Weinberg is praised for his significant contributions to theoretical physics, despite some characterizing him as difficult. The conversation touches on the complexity of ranking physicists, noting that contributions vary widely across different fields, making it challenging to determine a "greatest" physicist. There is also debate about the relationship between science and religion, with some asserting that they are fundamentally incompatible, while others argue that some scientists successfully reconcile the two. The discussion highlights the importance of humility in scientific discourse, especially regarding climate science, and acknowledges the contributions of lesser-known physicists alongside more famous figures like Hawking and Penrose. Overall, the thread reflects a rich dialogue on the legacies and personal beliefs of influential scientists.
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How about Juan Maldacena ? He's been top-top-cited over the last few years ? Do you care about Mikhail Shifman's sum rules ? They're pretty clever. Is Sacha Polyakov dead, or hiding behind Nathan Seiberg ? They say Alan H. Guth is still alive too. It would be super if Gordon Kane could join, but no string attached as Savas Dimopoulos used to say. Hey, was that Kenneth Wilson over that lattice ? Fortunately, they did not forget Yoichiro Nambu.
 
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  • #32
Loren Booda said:
We just missed John Archibald Wheeler!

Uh. Hate to break this to you dude but Wheeler's dead.
 
  • #33
humanino said:
You see, there is a reason those two wrote really good books. The reason people pick Hawking (please check spelling) and Penrose is related to the absurdity of the initial question. One usually is forced to assume we are talking about fundamental physicists, merely to restrict the list of possible names. In a precise, even almost technical (yet simple), sense, Hawking and Penrose have made seminal contributions to the study of space and time. Hawking from the quantum point of view, and Penrose from the Relativity point of view.

Your two picks are excellent physicists for sure. Bardeen was, in a precise sense, the best physicist alive at some point : in the evaluation of the Nobel committee.

Why the hell should we only chose "fundamental" physicists? Especially today where most of "fundamental" physics is entirely unprovable. Is this more of this go string (or LQG) or go home nonsense?

What about Walter Kohn?
 
  • #34
maverick_starstrider said:
Uh. Hate to break this to you dude but Wheeler's dead.

I think by "just missed," Loren Booda meant that John Wheeler died not long ago (April 13, 2008), and thus doesn't qualify for this thread.
 
  • #35
Everyone is entitled to their opinion maverick. There is no point in getting wound up about it.
 
  • #36
Will Zefram Cochran be a physicist or an engineer. If physicist, in 21 years I'll necropost in this thread and nominate him.
 
  • #37
George Jones said:
Will Zefram Cochran be a physicist or an engineer. If physicist, in 21 years I'll necropost in this thread and nominate him.

Wasn't it 2063 when he made his first warp flight? :-p
 
  • #38
maverick_starstrider said:
Why the hell should we only chose "fundamental" physicists? Especially today where most of "fundamental" physics is entirely unprovable. Is this more of this go string (or LQG) or go home nonsense?
Read the thread. I was asked and answered the very same question. Because the question is absurd. One has to choose where to stop the list, and if there is a side of physics, it's not technical. Actually, if you think about it, Connes is not a physicist.
 
  • #39
nobody seems to be bothered by me using fourier's name! :-p (maybe because he's been dead for ~150yrs)

Kurdt said:
Wasn't it 2063 when he made his first warp flight? :-p

speaking of warp flight, what about miguel alcubierre? it was his http://omnis.if.ufrj.br/~mbr/warp/alcubierre/cq940501.pdf"
 
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  • #40
humanino said:
Read the thread. I was asked and answered the very same question. Because the question is absurd. One has to choose where to stop the list, and if there is a side of physics, it's not technical. Actually, if you think about it, Connes is not a physicist.


And what, condensed matter isn't physics?
 
  • #41
maverick_starstrider said:
And what, condensed matter isn't physics?
That's certainly not what I said. One can make a list of professional physicists the end of which is rather clear on one side (at the border between mathematics and physics) but which goes in many directions and in each of them it is hard to decide where it ends on the other side. Do you count electronics in condensed matter ? How about high precision magnetic measurements ? This is quite an important field both in terms of support to many other physics categories and also in terms of future developments.

Again : if you want to cut a list, it is natural to cut it starting from the well defined side.
 
  • #42
humanino said:
That's certainly not what I said. One can make a list of professional physicists the end of which is rather clear on one side (at the border between mathematics and physics) but which goes in many directions and in each of them it is hard to decide where it ends on the other side. Do you count electronics in condensed matter ? How about high precision magnetic measurements ? This is quite an important field both in terms of support to many other physics categories and also in terms of future developments.

Again : if you want to cut a list, it is natural to cut it starting from the well defined side.

I don't think that makes sense at all. Just because definitions get a little vague a certain distance from a "solid" boundary (although let's face it, the distinction between some "fundamental" physics and applied math are just as dodgy as a disinction between quantum physics and quantum chemistry or material physics and material science) most definately does not suggest that you should confine yourself to with a hair's width of your "solid" boundary. That's like saying that if we agree that light of 700nm wavelength is "red" then one should not consider 701nm or 699nm. Sure it may get a little dicy when one gets to the mid 720nm's but it is just silly to neglect the entire spectrum.

By your logic, the development of BEC would be "best physicist" worthy (since Einstein did "fundamental") but the development of superfluidity would not (sorry Landau). I say at the very least that anyone who has won a Nobel prize IN PHYSICS should be worth of consideration as the "greatest" physicist. Even if they didn't do string theory.
 
  • #43
maverick_starstrider said:
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I agree with you. That's part of the reasons why I deemed the initial question absurd. I was only trying to explain motivations behind the initial question and the usual answers one gets in the countless threads we already had.
 
  • #44
nicksauce said:
IMO Weinberg as the greatest, and 't Hooft and Wilczek for being cool guys. I don't particularly like Freeman Dyson due to his religious views and his views on global warming.

Freeman Dyson said:
What is wrong with his religous views and his views on Global Warming? Quite frankly, Weinberg seems like an ******* and Dyson seems like a cool guy.

"I'm heretical because I was studying climate change at least 30 years ago before it became fashionable"

-Dyson

Dyson was being published on climate change before Al Gore even heard of it.
Dyson has both praise and criticism of Weinberg in this NYRB review of Weinberg's book "Lake Views": http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2010/jun/10/what-price-glory/
 
  • #45
hi

i'm curious what you guys think of popular scientists like Stephen Hawking or Brian Greene, how important are their works in their respective field
 
  • #46
Freeman Dyson said:
In your opinion. Or who is your favorite. Freeman Dyson is my favorite. I think he is the best too.:!)

Dr Dyson still shows up at my shop two or three times a year for a seminar/conference. Still ambulating, if slowly.
 
  • #47
My choice is Glauber.
 

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