Who Will Win the Elections? Predictions and Analysis

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The discussion revolves around predictions and analyses regarding the upcoming elections, focusing on the candidates Obama and Romney. Participants express their views on polling data, the impact of recent events like Hurricane Sandy, and endorsements from political figures and media outlets. The conversation includes speculation on voter behavior and electoral strategies.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion over the impact of Hurricane Sandy on the election, questioning whether it affected public perception of Obama.
  • Several participants predict a close race, with some leaning towards Romney and others towards Obama, citing various polls that show fluctuating support for both candidates.
  • There is mention of endorsements from figures like Christie and Bloomberg, with some arguing these could influence voter sentiment in favor of Obama.
  • Some participants highlight the importance of swing states and express concern about the implications of Virginia's voting patterns for future elections.
  • Disagreement exists over the significance of media endorsements, with some downplaying their impact while others argue they hold weight in the current political climate.
  • One participant emphasizes the potential for a split between the electoral vote and the popular vote, suggesting that this outcome is more likely than commonly perceived.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not reach consensus, with multiple competing views on who will win the election and how various factors may influence the outcome. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the predictions and analyses presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various polls and endorsements, but there is uncertainty regarding the accuracy and implications of these data points. The influence of recent events and voter behavior remains a topic of speculation.

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Individuals interested in political analysis, election predictions, and the dynamics of voter behavior may find this discussion relevant.

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  • #151
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  • #152
Wow! Tim Kaine just held his spot in VA. Looks like NC is in Romney's bag, but VA is going to be close.
 
  • #153
CNN just called it for Obama (on the heels of OH).
 
  • #154
Obama called as winner! WOOT!
 
  • #155
Obama has been trailing about 1 million behind in the national vote according to politico.
 
  • #156
well i will like it if mr obama wins, but i wish we had a popular vote to decide elections. if we did, then mr bush (w) would not have won and we would be so much better off overall as a country and a planet. we are just playing catchup from the devastation of the idiotic bush years still.

please forgive me my republican colleagues, i know you are sad tonight.
 
  • #157
Pythagorean said:
Obama has been trailing about 1 million behind in the national vote according to politico.
Not anymore. More votes keep being added for obama, it's down to less than 200k now, Obama might win both popular and electoral.
 
  • #158
Yeah, after watching it stay 1 mil behind for what seemed like forever, I made that post and immediately the gap started closing. Blue state must have finished up.
 
  • #159
Pythagorean said:
Yeah, after watching it stay 1 mil behind for what seemed like forever, I made that post and immediately the gap started closing. Blue state must have finished up.
Also, CA is only reporting at about 25% so far.
 
  • #160
i wonder if there is a connection between the fact that more educated people tend to vote democratic, and the fact that republicans tend to reduce funding for education?
 
  • #161
mathwonk said:
i wonder if there is a connection between the fact that more educated people tend to vote democratic, and the fact that republicans tend to reduce funding for education?

I was just looking at population density. People in highly populous areas tend to vote democrat, people in low population density areas tend to vote republican. It makes sense, intuitively, that people in dense cities would care more about social reform.

Densely populated places also happen to have more educational institutions (or at least a larger population in educational institutions).
 
  • #162
Gokul43201 said:
Also, CA is only reporting at about 25% so far.

ahh, I didn't catch that. That will probably put Obama in the lead for national vote.
 
  • #163
yeah CNN is already showing Obama taking the lead in the popular vote, by just a hair currently
 
  • #164
SHISHKABOB said:
yeah CNN is already showing Obama taking the lead in the popular vote, by just a hair currently

And that's with the west coast still largely uncounted.
 
  • #165
lazy hippies
 
  • #166
Final numbers (with nearly 99% reporting):

Popular vote = Obama 50.2%, Romney 48.3%
Electoral vote = Obama 332, Romney 206 (assuming Obama's 46,000-vote lead in FL is sufficient)

I believe Nate Silver (538 blog) came closest, calling for a 2.5% popular vote margin and being one of the few (only?) big pollsters predicting a finish with over 303 EVs for Obama.

And Dick Morris yet again proves he's not got a clue.
 
  • #167
Every single person that said they would vote for Romney in the other thread predicted a Romney win in this one (ignoring the few that did not participate in both polls). Yet, there is not a single pollster I've seen (not even Rassmussen), that predicted a Romney win anytime in the last couple of weeks. Seems to suggest that Romney supporters were projecting their desires rather than reflecting the reality of the polls. Or maybe you believed all these polls had a consistently liberal bias? Even people that have in the past extolled the ability of Intrade to accurately pick winners with its late numbers seemed quite happy to ignore it. I don't get it. Do you folks have an explanation?
 
  • #168
I'm struck by the comparison of these two maps:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html
Election Results
The only difference is in Florida, which was a very close race.
 
  • #169
Jimmy Snyder said:
I'm struck by the comparison of these two maps:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html
Election Results
The only difference is in Florida, which was a very close race.
Yes, the big surprise, relative to what was regarded (by betting agencies and so on) as "most likely" (300-310) range is the loss of Florida for Romney.
I thought Silver was overly optimistic with his 328(?) for Obama, but even he underestimated the actual number of EVs Obama got.
 

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