Why a 30 mph vs. 40 mph Impact Makes a Difference

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The discussion revolves around understanding the differences in kinetic energy calculations for impacts at 30 mph and 40 mph, specifically regarding the implications of these speeds on the likelihood of fatality in collisions. The original poster is attempting to reconcile their calculations with the expected outcomes based on the kinetic energy formula.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to convert speeds from mph to m/s and calculate kinetic energy using the formula KE = 1/2 M V^2. They express confusion over discrepancies in their results for 30 mph and 40 mph. Other participants suggest rechecking arithmetic and the conversion process, particularly the inclusion of the conversion factor from miles to kilometers.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the conversion process and addressing the arithmetic errors noted by the original poster. There is a focus on ensuring the correct application of the conversion factor, with some participants providing links for further reference. The discussion appears to be productive, with guidance being offered to help the original poster correct their calculations.

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There is an emphasis on careful step-by-step conversion from mph to m/s, and the original poster has acknowledged confusion regarding the application of the conversion factor. The homework context implies a need for accuracy in calculations related to kinetic energy and its implications in real-world scenarios.

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Homework Statement


Our homework set today was to find out why is it that when you hit someone at 30mph they have a 20% chance of dying. Yet when you hit someone at 40mph they have a 90% chance of dying.


Homework Equations


KE = 1/2 M V^2


The Attempt at a Solution


First of all i found out that 1mile = 1.6km; which means 1 mile = 1600m
I then did 60x60 to find out the amount of seconds in 1 hour: which was 3600 seconds
I then divided 30 by 3600 to get the meters/second; which was 8.333 [reoccuring] m/s
Now I found out the Kinetic Energy. We were allowed to choose which car we used, and I used my fathers. This weighs 2090kg (Mazda 5)

KE = 2090 x (8.333^2) = 145127.278
145127.278 / 2 = 72563.63901 J

This is where the problem came

I then tried it with 40mph

40 / 3600 to get the m/s; which turned out as 0.0111 [reoccuring]
I now thought how the heck could that be right? But I continued & tried to do the equation.

Ke = 2090 x (0.011^2) = 0.25289
0.25289 / 2 = 0.126445

Okay now I'm very confused. Can anyone help me out?

When 30mph KE is 72563.63901 how is 40mph 0.0111?

Thanks,
Phykid
 
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The calculation methods for 30 mph and 40 mph are identical, so recheck your arithmetic. Redo both conversions from mph to m/s.

Phykid said:
First of all i found out that 1mile = 1.6km; which means 1 mile = 1600m
I then did 60x60 to find out the amount of seconds in 1 hour: which was 3600 seconds
I then divided 30 by 3600 to get the meters/second; which was 8.333 [reoccuring] m/s

You forgot the 1.6 factor in going from miles to km.
 
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I'm confused, sorry :rolleyes:

EDIT: Ignore that, someone posted same time as me
 
Redo your conversion of 30 mph to m/s. Do it carefully, step by step.
 
So how would I go about including the 1.6 into it?

Thanks,
Phykid
 
Phykid said:
So how would I go about including the 1.6 into it?

Thanks,
Phykid

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Brilliant!
Thanks for all your help
 
I hope you realize that in your first post you correctly described how 1 mile = 1.6 km = 1600 m (approx). But then for some reason you forgot to use that bit of info when you did your conversion from mph to m/s.
 
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I didnt until you pointed it out in your first post :)
thanks
 

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