Why a 30 mph vs. 40 mph Impact Makes a Difference

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The discussion focuses on the significant difference in fatality rates when hitting a pedestrian at 30 mph versus 40 mph, with statistics showing a 20% chance of death at 30 mph and a 90% chance at 40 mph. The participant, Phykid, attempts to calculate kinetic energy (KE) for both speeds but encounters confusion in converting mph to m/s. The key error identified is the omission of the conversion factor from miles to meters, which leads to incorrect calculations. Participants emphasize the importance of carefully following unit conversions to accurately compute kinetic energy. Accurate calculations are crucial for understanding the impact of speed on pedestrian safety.
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Homework Statement


Our homework set today was to find out why is it that when you hit someone at 30mph they have a 20% chance of dying. Yet when you hit someone at 40mph they have a 90% chance of dying.


Homework Equations


KE = 1/2 M V^2


The Attempt at a Solution


First of all i found out that 1mile = 1.6km; which means 1 mile = 1600m
I then did 60x60 to find out the amount of seconds in 1 hour: which was 3600 seconds
I then divided 30 by 3600 to get the meters/second; which was 8.333 [reoccuring] m/s
Now I found out the Kinetic Energy. We were allowed to choose which car we used, and I used my fathers. This weighs 2090kg (Mazda 5)

KE = 2090 x (8.333^2) = 145127.278
145127.278 / 2 = 72563.63901 J

This is where the problem came

I then tried it with 40mph

40 / 3600 to get the m/s; which turned out as 0.0111 [reoccuring]
I now thought how the heck could that be right? But I continued & tried to do the equation.

Ke = 2090 x (0.011^2) = 0.25289
0.25289 / 2 = 0.126445

Okay now I'm very confused. Can anyone help me out?

When 30mph KE is 72563.63901 how is 40mph 0.0111?

Thanks,
Phykid
 
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The calculation methods for 30 mph and 40 mph are identical, so recheck your arithmetic. Redo both conversions from mph to m/s.

Phykid said:
First of all i found out that 1mile = 1.6km; which means 1 mile = 1600m
I then did 60x60 to find out the amount of seconds in 1 hour: which was 3600 seconds
I then divided 30 by 3600 to get the meters/second; which was 8.333 [reoccuring] m/s

You forgot the 1.6 factor in going from miles to km.
 
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I'm confused, sorry :rolleyes:

EDIT: Ignore that, someone posted same time as me
 
Redo your conversion of 30 mph to m/s. Do it carefully, step by step.
 
So how would I go about including the 1.6 into it?

Thanks,
Phykid
 
Phykid said:
So how would I go about including the 1.6 into it?

Thanks,
Phykid

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Brilliant!
Thanks for all your help
 
I hope you realize that in your first post you correctly described how 1 mile = 1.6 km = 1600 m (approx). But then for some reason you forgot to use that bit of info when you did your conversion from mph to m/s.
 
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I didnt until you pointed it out in your first post :)
thanks
 

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