Why Am I Struggling with Algebra 2 in College?

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The discussion revolves around a college student struggling with Algebra 2, which is a prerequisite for further studies in their Chemistry major. Participants explore the challenges faced in transitioning from high school to college-level mathematics, including differences in grading, expectations, and study methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in Algebra 2 despite having previously completed the course in high school, questioning whether the issue lies with the tutors or the grading practices of the professor.
  • Another participant suggests that the student should review topics they find challenging and engage in extensive practice to improve their understanding.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes the importance of understanding concepts rather than just memorizing them, arguing that true comprehension allows for application in varied contexts.
  • Some participants raise questions about the evaluation of local credit and whether the college's Algebra 2 course aligns with the high school curriculum, suggesting that the expectations may be higher in college.
  • There is a suggestion to inquire with the professor about specific areas of misunderstanding and to consider the importance of demonstrating understanding through proper notation and organized work.
  • Another participant notes that while high school courses also require proper notation and organization, college grading may be more stringent, leading to potential discrepancies in student performance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the root cause of the student's struggles. There are multiple competing views regarding the effectiveness of study methods, the nature of college-level expectations, and the comparison between high school and college courses.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the potential differences in course content and grading standards between high school and college Algebra 2, but do not resolve these differences. The discussion reflects varying opinions on study strategies and the importance of understanding versus memorization.

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Hi,
I'm currently having trouble getting past Algebra 2 at my college. I got local credit in Algebra 2 in high school. My current college major is Chemistry with an emphasis on materials science/engineering. I obviously need Calculus 3 and differential equations and my ultimate roadblock is Algebra 2. I just printed a formula sheet for Algebra 2 that I found online. I'm not sure if it's the tutors or the professor just grades harshly or whatever, but I'm having trouble getting past Algebra 2. Does anyone know any good study methods for math?
Thank you.
 
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Initially review the topic you are having trouble with, and then practice, practice, and some more practice until you can use it with ease.
 
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LinuxMicrosoftMCSA said:
Hi,
I'm currently having trouble getting past Algebra 2 at my college. I got local credit in Algebra 2 in high school. My current college major is Chemistry with an emphasis on materials science/engineering. I obviously need Calculus 3 and differential equations and my ultimate roadblock is Algebra 2. I just printed a formula sheet for Algebra 2 that I found online. I'm not sure if it's the tutors or the professor just grades harshly or whatever, but I'm having trouble getting past Algebra 2. Does anyone know any good study methods for math?
Thank you.
What kind of evaluation of local credit? You learned? You tried very hard? Grade of C or better, or not?
You, the student, know what you need or needed after going through the course. Your teacher may evaluate your work as best he can but only the student yourself can best understand what you learned well , what you did not learn well, and have a strong hint as to why. Understand, the material is new to you after having previously gone through only Algebra 1 in high school . When you have the course a second time, you WILL learn better, unless you are just not giving the effort. Algebra 2 is not at all your roadblock. You already learned it. Now is the time to learn it better.

Best material for your own reenforcement and review is find whatever book (one or two of them) that you believe is most thorough, or has all the topics that YOU need for YOUR course. Your own book as assigned might be fine or better than fine. A suggestion of authors of possibly older, but still excellent Algebra2 books may be Wright & New; Larson & Edwards; Gilbert & Perez; Aufman, Barker & Nation; and other members may have other suggestions.

osilmag said:
Initially review the topic you are having trouble with, and then practice, practice, and some more practice until you have it memorized.
That is good advice, but is understood as already taken care of, since you already studied the course in high school. You are now in it for the second time; remember?Just what kind of trouble are you having? Can you determine if your college's course called Algebra 2 is equivalent to the one you had in high school? Are you now being assigned much more theoretical exercises than you were in high school Algebra 2? are you now being assigned much more applications exercises than you were in the high school Algebra 2? Is you teacher allowing much for partial credit, or is this kind of evaluating being highly restricted?
 
osilmag said:
Initially review the topic you are having trouble with, and then practice, practice, and some more practice until you have it memorized.
I agree with the advice to practice, but not the conclusion. I would advise practicing until you understand the concept, not just have it memorized. With understanding, you can apply the concept in similar but not identical situations. With just memorization, if the scenario changes, even only slightly, one might not know how to deal with the new situation.
 
LinuxMicrosoftMCSA said:
I'm not sure if it's the tutors or the professor just grades harshly or whatever, but I'm having trouble getting past Algebra 2.
Have you asked the professor about what you're doing wrong? The grading might seem harsher because the expectations are higher. What was good enough for high school is rarely good enough in college.

One thing you might also think about is that it's not enough to understand the material, but you need to be able to demonstrate that you understand the material to the grader. You need to use correct notation; you need to avoid careless errors; you need to organize your work logically and neatly; etc.
 
vela said:
One thing you might also think about is that it's not enough to understand the material, but you need to be able to demonstrate that you understand the material to the grader. You need to use correct notation; you need to avoid careless errors; you need to organize your work logically and neatly; etc.
Good Point, but the same expectations (should) also be in the high school course of Algebra 2. The teacher there still must evaluate students' written work, both for homework and for in-class assessments, so proper notation, organized solution process and necessary steps must still be used and shown. Let's hope that the comparison of the course between high school and college has not become old-fashioned.

Maybe the grading assessment schemes are more strict in college? Hard to say, owing to the fact that repeated study of the same course expectedly leads to improved learning of that course's material.
 

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