Why are MACHOs in the Halo not the disk

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The discussion revolves around the search for massive compact halo objects (MACHOs) in the context of galactic structure, specifically questioning their presence in the galaxy's halo versus the disk. Participants explore the implications of rotation curves and the distribution of dark matter.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why the search for MACHOs is focused on the halo rather than the disk of the galaxy.
  • Others argue that there is unobserved material in the halo, which justifies the search in that region.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the location of dark matter, suggesting it could be present in the disk as well.
  • Another participant points out that rotation curves are not sensitive to extra matter near the core, implying that the halo is a more likely location for unobserved mass.
  • There is a suggestion that dark matter in the disk could also be considered part of the halo, leading to ambiguity in the definitions used.
  • One participant asserts that the rotation speed of galaxies remains constant at large radii, indicating the presence of mass in the halo, which is not visible.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on why the equations suggest that mass must be located outside the disk rather than within it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the location of dark matter, with some supporting the idea that it is primarily in the halo while others question this assumption and suggest it could also be in the disk. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact distribution of MACHOs.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of halo and disk, as well as the assumptions underlying the rotation curves and their implications for mass distribution.

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Hi, I was just wondering, why are we only looking for massive compact HALO objects?

Can there not be such objects in the Galaxys disk, if so why? Or have simply already detected all of them, if so how?
 
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Because we know there's unobserved material in the halo. So it makes sense to look for them there.
 
I only know of reasons for there being unobserved matter distributed over the galaxy, how do you know it is in the halo?
 
Because the rotation curves are not sensitive to extra matter near the core.
 
I never asked for why the matter is at large radii.

I just realized that maybe the disk is considered part of the Halo, and therefore any dark matter in the disk is also in the halo. So halo objects may just as well be in the disk, right?
 
No, you asked why people are *looking* at large radii. That's the answer. Maybe they are in the disk too, maybe not.
 
Galaxies rotate. The speed of rotation should decrease as you approach the edge. However it remains relatively constant. The most likely explanation is there is a lot of mass in a halo around the galaxy outside of the visible disc, and it's dark so we can't see it with telescopes. So this is why people are looking for MACHOs.
 
d3mm said:
...there is a lot of mass in a halo around the galaxy outside of the visible disc...

I'm not confused about the existence of mass, but about the location. Why outside of the disk? why not in between visible Stars?
 
That's where the equations say it must be to explain the rotation speed of the galaxy.
 

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