Why are mirror charges created?

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The discussion centers on the concept of mirror charges created when a charge is placed near an uncharged conductor, exploring the reasons behind this phenomenon and its implications, particularly in the context of antennas. Participants examine the theoretical underpinnings and mathematical solutions related to electric fields and charge distribution.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes how a charge near a conductor induces a mirrored image charge of equal and opposite magnitude, suggesting that this is due to the rearrangement of charges within the conductor until the electric fields cancel out.
  • Another participant asserts that the creation of a mirror charge is the only solution that results in zero electric field everywhere inside and along the metal sheet, implying a mathematical guarantee of this outcome.
  • A different participant expresses skepticism about the relationship between mirror charges and antennas, questioning the relevance of dipole antennas to the concept of mirror charges.
  • One participant explains that in a dipole antenna, oscillating charges are reflected in the ground plane, creating a dipole and contributing to electromagnetic wave generation, while also expressing doubt about the existence of mirror charges as physical entities.
  • Another participant emphasizes that induced charges do not create a net imbalance, indicating that excess negative charges on one side must be balanced by excess positive charges on the other side.
  • One participant clarifies that the mirror charge is an artifact used for simplifying calculations of electric field lines, noting that the field lines between the real charge and the ground plane can be approximated by those between the real charge and the mirror charge.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence and relevance of mirror charges, with some supporting the mathematical justification for their use while others argue against their physical reality and relevance to antenna theory. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the connection between mirror charges and practical applications like antennas.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of the topic, with some indicating a need for further study of the mathematics involved. There are also references to the limitations of static setups in explaining dynamic phenomena such as those in antennas.

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When a charge is placed next to an uncharged conductor, a mirrored image of that charge is created on the other side of the uncharged conductor. The mirrored image charge will have an equal and opposite magnitude to the original charge.

For example, if there was a 1C point charge 1m away from a thin metal sheet, it will appear as if there is a -1C point charge on the other side of this metal sheet.

The electric field lines in the x direction would look like this:

+o--------->|--------->o-

Why does this happen? All I know so far is that when a conductor is placed inside an electric field, the charges inside it are re-arranged. This seems intuitive, as an electric field is just a vector field that denotes what force a positive 1 coulomb charge would feel a particular point in space, so the charges inside the conductor will have a force on them, and will move until they are in a position where there there is no net force on them. This will be when the electric fields inside the conductor cancel out.

In my example diagram the positive charge will cause the electrons inside the conductor to move towards this charge, they will continue moving until the fields cancel out. I can see that this would also be true if an opposite charge was placed at the other side of the conductor. The electrons inside wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

But just because this is true does not mean that the fields on the right side of the conductor will act as if there is a mirror charge there.

I don't understand why a mirror charge is created. Will someone please explain?

Thanks.

Also, mini extra question:
How does this apply to antenna's? It's something to do with dipoles but I don't properly understand what is happening. If you could give an example of mirror charges being created in the context of an antenna It will be greatly appreciated!
 
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Why does this happen?
It is the only solution with zero electric field everywhere inside and along the metal sheet. It is easy to see that it is a solution, and mathematics guarantees you that it is the only solution.
How does this apply to antenna's?
I don't see a relation to antennas.
 
Okay thanks, I think I study the maths in more detail next year. After that i'll probably be able to believe that it is the only solution :)

mfb said:
I don't see a relation to antennas.

A dipole antenna radiates an EM field because of the accelerating and decelerating charges inside of it. The electric field will be oscillating as it can not change at the same place everywhere at the same time (the wave front travels at c), and the magnetic field oscillates because a moving charge causes a magnetic field, and the charge is accelerating and decelerating in simple harmonic motion. This means at the point where acceleration is maximum and velocity is zero, there will be no magnetic field, and at the point where acceleration is minimum and velocity is maximum there will be maximum magnetic field.

What mirrored charges have to do with this:

In a dipole antenna the oscillating charges inside the antenna are reflected in the ground plane. This creates the dipole. The combination of the oscillating dipole charge, and the oscillating charge's in the antenna creates An EM wave.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/VFPt_dipole_animation_electric.gif
The fact that antennas work prove that these dipoles exist. Understanding them is important for antenna theory, it is the reason I asked this question. Just because a dipole is a solution to what caused the re distribution of charge inside the conductor shouldn't mean that it is actually there. Should it?
 
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I still don't see a relation between moving charges in antennas and mirror charges in electrostatic setups.

Just because a dipole is a solution to what caused the re distribution of charge inside the conductor
There is no (interesting) dipole in the static setup. The mirror charge is imaginary.
 
Any induced charge on an object will not actually produce any net imbalance of charge. Any excess of - charges on one side of it must result in an excess of + charges on the other side, to compensate.
 
The mirror charge does not exist. It is used as an artefact that allows the field lines between the ground plane and the real charge to be calculated more readily. Essentially, the field lines between the real charge and the real ground plane are identical to the field lines between the charge and the mirror charge in that region, so one simply calculates the field lines between the real charge and the mirror charge (ignoring the real ground plane) to find the strength and shape of the field lines between the real charge and the real ground plane.
 

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