Why are some elements conductors and magnetic, while others are not?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the reasons why some elements exhibit conductivity and magnetism while others do not. Participants explore concepts related to electron movement, atomic structure, and the principles of solid-state physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the movement of electrons and the electric charge of atoms are key factors in determining conductivity.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to understand quantum mechanics to grasp the underlying principles of conductivity and magnetism.
  • A different participant recommends consulting solid-state physics textbooks for detailed explanations of these concepts.
  • One participant expresses difficulty accessing solid-state physics books due to library restrictions, indicating a need for more accessible resources.
  • A request is made for an atomic-level model or graphic that illustrates the process of conduction, including how energy transfer varies with length, temperature, and area.
  • Another participant suggests starting with the Drude model as a simplified approach to understanding conduction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the specific mechanisms behind conductivity and magnetism, and multiple viewpoints regarding the need for foundational knowledge in quantum mechanics and solid-state physics remain. Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the subject matter.

Contextual Notes

Some participants indicate limitations in their understanding due to their educational level, and there are unresolved questions about the accessibility of resources for learning about solid-state physics.

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I am a bit unfamiliar on this subject, but I know it has to do with the movement of electrons. From what I know, each atom has its own electric charge, metals are good electric conductors because the atoms have good current, so the charges can move from atom to atom easier. My question is, what determines the way these charges move from atom to atom and how does this happen?
 
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You need to understand quantum mechanics for this one.
 
Hi,

Just look into some solid-state physics books..all are explained there..
cheers
 
Rajini said:
Hi,

Just look into some solid-state physics books..all are explained there..
cheers[/QUOTE
Sorry, probably didn't tell you the following:
- I am not in High School yet, therefore it is hard to obtain these books due to the library reserving them for actual High school students ( you need to provide proof your a high school student in order to check them out.
 
atomic model for conduction?

hi guys, do you know where can i find an atomic level model\graphic for the process of conduction.
I have cracked my head trying to visualize how EXACTLY is the energy being transferred and how does it vary with length,temp&area.
 


Open any solid state physics textbook, such as Kittel of Ashcroft and Mermin. You might want to start with the simplified model of the Drude model.

Zz.
 

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