Why Are These Lines Perpendicular?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the geometric interpretation of why a line defined by a parameterization through a point on a surface is perpendicular to the gradient of the surface at that point. The context includes concepts from calculus and differential geometry, particularly focusing on derivatives and scalar products.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on the relationship between a line defined by a parameterization and the gradient of a surface at a specific point.
  • Another participant suggests using the chain rule to derive the relationship and interpret it in terms of the scalar product.
  • A subsequent reply provides the derivative expression and argues that setting it to zero implies the two vectors are perpendicular, based on the scalar product interpretation.
  • A later response confirms the understanding of the previous points, indicating satisfaction with the explanation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to reach a mutual understanding regarding the relationship between the lines and the gradient, but the initial question reflects uncertainty that is addressed through discussion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion assumes that the curve lies on the surface defined by the equation F(x,y,z)=0, and the implications of setting the derivative to zero are not fully explored in terms of broader mathematical principles.

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Hi all,

When you have a surface defined by F(x, y, z) = 0 where x = f(t), y= g(t) and z= h(t) and a point on this surface P_0 = (x_0, y_0, z_0), could someone explain to me why a line through P_0 with direction numbers [\frac{dx}{dt}, \frac{dy}{dt}, \frac{dz}{dt}] is perpendicular to a line through P_0 with direction numbers [\frac{\partial F}{dx}, \frac{\partial F}{dy}, \frac{\partial F}{dz}]?

I'm having real trouble picturing it in my head, which means I'm struggling to understand why it is so.

Thanks!
 
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Hint: Use the Chain rule to calculate rhe derivative w.r.t t of the composite function F(f(t),g(t),h(t)). What is this derivative? How can it be interpreted in terms of scalar product (inner product)?
It must be assumed here that the curve (x,y,z)=(f(t),g(t),h(t)) lies on the surface F(x,y,z)=0.
 
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Well, the derivative wrt t is: \frac{dF}{dt} = \frac{\partial F}{\partial x}\frac{dx}{dt} + \frac{\partial F}{\partial y}\frac{dy}{dt} + \frac{\partial F}{\partial x}\frac{dz}{dt} Setting this to zero and comparing it to the scalar product of the two vectors comprising the direction numbers would mean that the angle between them had to be 90 degrees, hence they are perpendicular... I guess it's ok to set the derivative to zero, since the original surface F(x,y,z) is zero, right? So that all kinda makes sense to me. Yeah... Thanks! I think I've got it!
 
You got it :)
 

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