Why Bellyflops Hurt: Impact on a Water Surface

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The discussion revolves around the physics of impact on a water surface, particularly focusing on why high-speed impacts can feel as hard as hitting a solid surface. Participants also explore concepts related to Earth's rotation and relative motion during free fall.

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  • Participants discuss the inability of water to displace quickly enough during impact, comparing its density to that of gases and solids. Questions are raised about the effects of Earth's rotation on perceived motion and impact.

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Several participants have offered insights into the properties of water, such as inertia and incompressibility, and have suggested considerations like surface tension. There is an ongoing exploration of the physics involved, with no clear consensus yet on the explanations provided.

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Some participants note potential missing information in the questions posed, indicating that further clarification may be needed to fully address the concepts being discussed.

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If a body crashes into a water surface at high speed, the impact is almost as hard as on a solid surface. Explain why.

I think it is something like this:
The water cannot displace fast enough and so all the molecules are close together as if they were a solid.

Also:
The Earth rotates at over 1000km/h so why when you jump off should the wall not slam into you?

I think it is that the entire Earth (even until the edges of its magnetic field rotate at that speed, and so it does not matter if you are on the ground or in the air because the entire system is moving.

Thank you for your input in advance.
 
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blaster0 said:
If a body crashes into a water surface at high speed, the impact is almost as hard as on a solid surface. Explain why.

I think it is something like this:
The water cannot displace fast enough and so all the molecules are close together as if they were a solid.

Also:
The Earth rotates at over 1000km/h so why when you jump off should the wall not slam into you?

I think it is that the entire Earth (even until the edges of its magnetic field rotate at that speed, and so it does not matter if you are on the ground or in the air because the entire system is moving.

Thank you for your input in advance.
You could give a reason why it is harder for water to get out of the way than the air you were falling through. Compare the density of water to the density of gas and the density of a solid.

You must have left some words out of the second question. You are on the right track. What is your motion relative to an observer out in space before you jump?
 
I also have heard this expression but never have seen an explanation for it. I tend to agree with your first guess at it: the inertia (getting quickly out of the way) and basically incompressibility of water. Another factor to consider is the surface tension (keeping it together) of the water.

I would think that in order to survive such a process one should hold your arms straight along the sides of your head with your palms pressed together. This should break the surface tension as the tip of your fingers enter first and allow you to slip into the water rather than slam into the surface which resists breaking and elastically deforming under the impact. Once in the water you should bundle up in order to slow down as quickly as possible before hitting the bottom.
 
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